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Major Nikon

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143. Or the WHO people who publish regulation standards for pesticides...

Tue May 17, 2016, 01:02 PM

May 2016

or the WHO people publishing agriculture regulation standards, or the WHO people who monitor food safety, or the EPA, or the EFSA, or the American Council on Science and Health, or German Federal Institute for Risk Assessment, The Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives, or pretty much every other first world food and water safety regulatory agency on the planet.

Meanwhile the IARC, unlike many of the other organizations mentioned does NOT perform risk assessments, only hazard assessments. What does this mean? It means the IARC doesn't consider whether a given substance has a 1 in gazzillion chance of causing cancer or a 1 in 10 chance of causing cancer, nor do they evaluate whether or not a given substance actually is increasing the number of cancer cases. In other words, all they are doing is establishing a baseline for all those other organizations for risk assessment, and the overwhelming consensus is there's exactly zero observed risk of cancer from glyphosate under anything remotely approaching real world conditions.

So certainly to climate science deniers and other assorted cranks, scientific consensus and practical reality doesn't matter, YMMV.

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YEA! Ring of Fire plans to go after Monsanto's Roundup big time in the next few weeks! [View all] womanofthehills May 2016 OP

Awesome! lagomorph777 May 2016 #1

recent reading that glyphosate kills good gut bacteria that protect intestinal lining Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #2

Comey and git IT TrumpTroll, traitors! the gang's all here Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #49

One can also read about how vaccines cause autism Major Nikon May 2016 #62

PLOS Biology: Chemically Diverse Toxicants Converge on Fyn and c-Cbl to Disrupt Precursor Cell Funct Baobab May 2016 #93

Not sure how this is supposed to be remotely in context Major Nikon May 2016 #94

If you're pregnant, make sure to stay away from "pro oxidant" anything Baobab May 2016 #96

Sure, like orange juice and everything else that contains vitamin C Major Nikon May 2016 #97

Glutathione is one of the general principles in toxicology Baobab May 2016 #98

I did read the paper. Obviously you didn't understand it Major Nikon May 2016 #99

Thanks for your intelligent posts -Interesting to read more about NAC - I take it daily womanofthehills May 2016 #103

Actually, the Vaccine Injury Compensation program has paid out over 3 billion for vaccine injury womanofthehills May 2016 #104

Are they going to be covering the organic food recalled due to a listeria outbreak? NuclearDem May 2016 #3

I'm sure they'll address the far more toxic herbicides that would be used in its absence. HuckleB May 2016 #4

The world is awash in glyphosate - most heavily used chemical in history of the world womanofthehills May 2016 #5

As usual, your response has nothing to do with the content of my post. HuckleB May 2016 #7

So you think DDT will come back if we eliminate glyphosate? womanofthehills May 2016 #8

And yet again, your post has nothing to do with the content of my post or of my links. HuckleB May 2016 #9

It's is sad that you are on a progressive site quoting articles by GMO shills & right wing mags womanofthehills May 2016 #10

It is sad that you can't discuss the actual science and reality of the issues. HuckleB May 2016 #13

So you side with Monsanto over the progressive lawyers at Ring of Fire womanofthehills May 2016 #31

"Progressive" lawyers, in name only. The majority of the world's scientists disagree with WHO. HuckleB May 2016 #61

Untrue - There is no way you could be a progressive and not LOVE Mike Papantonio womanofthehills May 2016 #78

He pushes misinformation. That's not progressive in any way, shape, or form. HuckleB May 2016 #91

So you side with irrationality over common sense EvolveOrConvolve May 2016 #67

ahhhhhhhh womanofthehills May 2016 #108

There are more listeria outbreaks in conventional foods womanofthehills May 2016 #6

So when will you address toxic "organic" herbicides and pesticides? HuckleB May 2016 #16

Organic uses a lot of pyrethins - which unlike organochloride pesticides - break down within hrs womanofthehills May 2016 #32

Just not that hard to show where the bullshit comes in Major Nikon May 2016 #45

My neighbor used round-up and now the cows won't milk and the hens won't lay Major Nikon May 2016 #11

Wait! The coffee ground enemas don't cure all that? HuckleB May 2016 #17

This is about the 100th time you have mentioned coffee enemas womanofthehills May 2016 #28

Excellent point! Let's not forget about Wheatgrass enemas! Major Nikon May 2016 #39

Actually, you can even put cannabis up your butt .... womanofthehills May 2016 #105

So long as it fits I suppose you could put anything up there Major Nikon May 2016 #106

Why be so conventional womanofthehills May 2016 #107

Actually eggs and milk are some of the foods highest in glyphosate womanofthehills May 2016 #23

Which is already well within the standards of every regulatory agency on the planet Major Nikon May 2016 #26

The FDA has never tested for glyphosate womanofthehills May 2016 #33

You really do have no idea what you're talking about Major Nikon May 2016 #36

FDA moving toward testing glyphosate for the 1st time in agency's history womanofthehills May 2016 #42

You do know there's more to the "government" than the FDA, yes? Major Nikon May 2016 #43

In 2011 - Goverment did one "special project" testing soybeans- WOWEE! womanofthehills May 2016 #63

Actually there were more than that Major Nikon May 2016 #65

That meme was quite hilarious, to boot. HuckleB May 2016 #69

You're talking about someone who promotes homeopathy and Food Babe Major Nikon May 2016 #70

Give me another example then womanofthehills May 2016 #80

How about I make a deal with you Major Nikon May 2016 #83

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh womanofthehills May 2016 #109

... Major Nikon May 2016 #112

And yet the US cancer rate is falling, not rising NickB79 May 2016 #12

Not true - Cancer is an imminent "human disaster" say WHO womanofthehills May 2016 #34

Sweet Jebus, can't you even read your own links? Major Nikon May 2016 #37

From CDC womanofthehills May 2016 #64

Does the fact that your own source proved your assertion as bullshit not even phase you? Major Nikon May 2016 #66

Rachel Carson took care of this crap . . . I thought. Despicable. snowy owl May 2016 #14

Something tells me that Rachel Carson wouldn't support increasing more toxic herbicides. HuckleB May 2016 #15

I've heard same re meds in Africa. See Bill Gates on some of that. snowy owl May 2016 #20

Oh, goodness. You're going with a vague Bill Gates conspiracy theory as a response? HuckleB May 2016 #22

Bill Gates has the f**king toxic GMO bananas he is trying to sell to Africa womanofthehills May 2016 #29

They aren't fucking toxic, and are being codeveloped with local African governments.... Humanist_Activist May 2016 #35

12 Iowa State Univ students will be paid $900 to eat one GMO banana womanofthehills May 2016 #44

You've been busted posting nonsense several times in this thread alone Major Nikon May 2016 #47

CDC says liver cancer rates up 38% from 2003 to 2012 womanofthehills May 2016 #56

After being busted for posting bullshit, you just post more bullshit Major Nikon May 2016 #58

FROM CDC womanofthehills May 2016 #72

The US cancer rate is falling, not rising Major Nikon May 2016 #73

ahhhhhhhhhh womanofthehills May 2016 #110

... Major Nikon May 2016 #111

And? That's typical for clinical trials. Humanist_Activist May 2016 #79

You're talking about reverting America to peasant agriculture jmowreader May 2016 #52

Non-chemical agriculture doesn't exist Major Nikon May 2016 #53

Oh man... jmowreader May 2016 #55

Amish farmers use pesticides and even GMO Major Nikon May 2016 #57

Rachel Carson is for zero herbicides womanofthehills May 2016 #82

More bullshit Major Nikon May 2016 #84

A great reason to vote for Bernie womanofthehills May 2016 #24

Posted on another thread - Farmers suing Monsanto-RU gave them cancer snowy owl May 2016 #18

The lawsuits are just beginning womanofthehills May 2016 #30

As if that makes their case any less hopeless Major Nikon May 2016 #38

Mike Papantonio - voted America's best lawyer - just said womanofthehills May 2016 #114

Sure, a guy voted to the top of the most despised profession in the world Major Nikon May 2016 #116

The EPA did come out with their final version womanofthehills May 2016 #130

Along with 13 other unrelated documents Major Nikon May 2016 #131

The one they retracted womanofthehills May 2016 #133

Which kinda should be telling you it's the "FINAL VERSION" Major Nikon May 2016 #142

You should probably tell her what peer review means. HuckleB May 2016 #144

Perhaps Major Nikon May 2016 #147

True. That part of the picture is important. HuckleB May 2016 #148

The WHO has now said that glyphosate is unlikely to cause cancer. HuckleB May 2016 #118

Get your facts straight. womanofthehills May 2016 #120

My facts are straight, but you are still clinging to something you don't understand. HuckleB May 2016 #122

You stole my line! Major Nikon May 2016 #132

So the Guidelines for drinking-water people don't agree with the Agency for Cancer Research womanofthehills May 2016 #134

Glyphosate unlikely to pose risk to humans, UN/WHO study says cleanhippie May 2016 #138

Or the WHO people who publish regulation standards for pesticides... Major Nikon May 2016 #143

This post should be an OP. HuckleB May 2016 #145

I'm not sure there's very many people who actually want to know what they parrot out means Major Nikon May 2016 #149

Probably not many. HuckleB May 2016 #150

Too close for comfort Doremus May 2016 #19

So, you used baseless fear mongering on your neighbor, and you're proud of this? HuckleB May 2016 #21

What's more telling is even the IARC noted that Seralini was full of shit Major Nikon May 2016 #40

March against Monsanto thinks his study was right womanofthehills May 2016 #46

Which probably should be telling you something about your nutty sources Major Nikon May 2016 #48

March Against Monsanto are "vaccines cause autism" loons. Archae May 2016 #100

The government did pay out over 3 billion dollars for vaccine injuries womanofthehills May 2016 #113

When You Can't Win On Science... HuckleB May 2016 #119

Actually - some new studies link glyphosate to autism womanofthehills May 2016 #127

ROFLMAO!!! Seneff is not new, and has been debunked! HuckleB May 2016 #128

Bull...shit. Archae May 2016 #129

Rock-n-Roll causes devil worship Major Nikon May 2016 #156

Don't walk where she sprayed or you can track it into your house & it stays on rugs womanofthehills May 2016 #27

Don't look now but virtually every single thing you ingest has a pesticide load Major Nikon May 2016 #41

Great news!! n/t ailsagirl May 2016 #25

Extreme overexaggeration is never the way to win my heart jmowreader May 2016 #50

Food Babe fan Major Nikon May 2016 #51

Nice OP. You made the brigade angry. U4ikLefty May 2016 #54

Thanks U4ikLefty womanofthehills May 2016 #59

The OP spreads misinformation. HuckleB May 2016 #60

Example #1 U4ikLefty May 2016 #75

In other words, you can only offer ugly ad hominem silliness. HuckleB May 2016 #92

This is what anger really looks like Major Nikon May 2016 #68

Example #2 U4ikLefty May 2016 #76

Of course we pile on EvolveOrConvolve May 2016 #71

Some of the same people get all butthurt when homeopathy, anti-vax, and other crazy talk is piled on Major Nikon May 2016 #74

try harder, you didn't make the cut as one of the brigade. U4ikLefty May 2016 #77

Unfortunate to be sure Major Nikon May 2016 #81

Ah, I must have touched a nerve EvolveOrConvolve May 2016 #85

That's probably why you don't make the cut Major Nikon May 2016 #86

Oh how cute, he responded. The only nerve you hit was my pity nerve. U4ikLefty May 2016 #88

You mistake a defense of rational thought for a defense of Monsanto EvolveOrConvolve May 2016 #89

Pedestrian and derivative insult....try harder little one. U4ikLefty May 2016 #90

As opposed to childishly silly insults? Major Nikon May 2016 #95

+1 G_j May 2016 #135

Why do you support the spread of misinformation? HuckleB May 2016 #139

We use gallons of Round Up. Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #87

Prepared to be lambasted for heresy Major Nikon May 2016 #102

They don't live in the real world. Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #155

Your house must be contaminated with Roundup womanofthehills May 2016 #115

Round up doesn't blow about. Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #117

Check all the new info coming out - womanofthehills May 2016 #121

Let's start with the real-world damage the anti-GMO movement is doing. HuckleB May 2016 #123

check out this documentary I posted recently womanofthehills May 2016 #124

Youtube "science" with Seralini, Carman, and all the rest of the debunked nonsense. HuckleB May 2016 #125

Produced by Putin's mouthpiece of disinformation, RT no less Major Nikon May 2016 #151

Rubbish Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #153

How Dangerous Is Pesticide Drift? womanofthehills May 2016 #136

The decline in the pirate population could also be causing global warming Major Nikon May 2016 #152

Their bodies are not going to grow without grub. Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #154

Hell to the yeah libodem May 2016 #101

Spreading misinformation is so cool! HuckleB May 2016 #126

You ought to know.. nt G_j May 2016 #140

Prove I've done it. HuckleB May 2016 #141

Glyphosate unlikely to pose risk to humans, UN/WHO study says cleanhippie May 2016 #137

But misinforming people in order to scare them is so "progressive." HuckleB May 2016 #146