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Warren DeMontague

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9. I don't know if it is baseless fear mongering, or not.
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:18 PM
May 2016

Seems to me there is a range from baseless fear mongering to legitimate concerns about environmental effects of certain things like pesticides or herbicides. A pesticide or a herbicide is, by definition, a substance designed to kill some living things; it's not hugely a stretch to imagine that it might also kill other living things, not to my mind.

As for "baseless"--It's one study, probably worth additional studies, but I don't know enough about the credentials of either the organization or the scientists involved to either take it as gospel truth OR dismiss it out of hand.

Personally, on the topic of GMOs, my position is that it is a powerful technology with incredible promise, and one which it is ludicrous to categorize as inherently "evil" or "bad" or "unnatural" (a meaningless word if there ever was one) --- but at the same time I question whether selling more roundup, specifically, is really the best use of this powerful, promising technology.

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kick n/t JohnyCanuck May 2016 #1
Union of Concerned Scientists concerned about hidden costs of industrial agriculture JohnyCanuck May 2016 #2
Healthy Soil Microbes, Healthy People JohnyCanuck May 2016 #3
For more fertile soils feed the microbes, don't poison them. JohnyCanuck May 2016 #4
KnR nt bemildred May 2016 #5
As someone who has gotten pretty good at backyard composting over the years Warren DeMontague May 2016 #6
It's rough out back ... HuckleB May 2016 #7
I don't know if it is baseless fear mongering, or not. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #9
Unfortunately, it is, most of the time. HuckleB May 2016 #10
I don't think the progressive cause includes destroying the soil womanofthehills May 2016 #16
Then why do you work so hard to promote a return to more toxic herbicides? HuckleB May 2016 #17
I promote no herbicides womanofthehills May 2016 #24
Nice fantasy. HuckleB May 2016 #37
All you really need is common sense Major Nikon May 2016 #19
Well, see, an actual answer with actual information Warren DeMontague May 2016 #20
Check this out: USDA Scientist: Monsanto's Roundup Herbicide Damages Soil JohnyCanuck May 2016 #22
Benbrook's buddy who managed to make the news 5 years ago with a story that went nowhere Major Nikon May 2016 #23
Lots of controversy here - you always side with Monsanto womanofthehills May 2016 #25
I side against bullshit Major Nikon May 2016 #27
Seralini Study republished womanofthehills May 2016 #30
Yeah, it was republished in a shit journal that will publish anything for money Major Nikon May 2016 #32
Actually Seralini has been winning court victorys for libel womanofthehills May 2016 #33
Which has exactly zero to do with whether or not his studies are shit Major Nikon May 2016 #35
Glyphosate the single most important factor predisposing plants to diseases and toxins womanofthehills May 2016 #29
Electromagnetic Signals from HIV Major Nikon May 2016 #31
Thank you for the information Scientific May 2016 #8
If you haven't seen it, check out this longer video I recently posted in the Video forum JohnyCanuck May 2016 #11
One simple cure... zappaman Jun 2016 #43
Thanks for this, JohnyCanuck, jomin41 May 2016 #12
You're welcome jomin41, and an observation...... JohnyCanuck May 2016 #13
None of this surprises me. jomin41 May 2016 #14
Good info - who would want to eat food grown in soil that worms & good microbes can' t even live in womanofthehills May 2016 #15
Same journal that republished the widely discredited Seralini rat study Major Nikon May 2016 #18
I don't think something that ends with cide helps build soil womanofthehills May 2016 #26
Sure, so instead of carrying guns, criminals should just carry squirt bottles of glyphosate Major Nikon May 2016 #28
Symptoms of Glyphosate poisoning womanofthehills May 2016 #34
Sure, believe it or not people have actually managed to do suicide by glyphosate Major Nikon May 2016 #36
Soil is alive felix_numinous May 2016 #21
My son works at a store that sells it MFM008 May 2016 #38
He is spreading lies. I'm surprised he has kept this job. Bonx May 2016 #41
Farmers take billions of tons of biomass off fields every year, and we're worried about this? NickB79 May 2016 #39
Hopefully the fungus will evolve resistance to it KamaAina May 2016 #40
Antiobiotic resistence from glyphosate womanofthehills May 2016 #42
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