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144. I have been a diesel truck mechanic for 38 years but here a better one for you

Fri May 20, 2016, 04:18 AM

May 2016

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Steel Ignores Jet Fuel

by Edward Mitchell

I am not a scientist, nor a physicist, nor structural engineer. I am a Boilermaker, Shipbuilder, and Blacksmith Forger. Union. Now a contractor on military facilities. I build steel storage tanks for jet fuel. A few years ago, a typhoon blew through, and I got to watch a Mobil AST, with 1,000,000 gallons of diesel in it, get hit with lightning. The grounding failed, and the million gallons blew up.

Well, for a diesel fire that is. It didn’t “blow up”. It simply caught fire, burned itself out after 4 days, blackened the steel. Catch that? One million gallons of diesel fuel, burned for 4 days, and didn’t melt a thing.

The tank, 1/4″-thick steel, never melted.

Yet the 47 HUGE box-section core columns, the main structural supports of the WTC towers, are said to have melted?

Stop, I’ll wet my britches laughing.
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http://physics911.net/mitchell/

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Charles Pierce: Why Do We Keep Learning New Secrets About 9/11? [View all] eridani May 2016 OP

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excellent. merrily May 2016 #109

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+10 nt 99th_Monkey May 2016 #58

why does Mr. Pierce think there's millions of "9/11 truthers" in this country? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #10

so what's the real story? nt uhnope May 2016 #11

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it's hard to know exactly, because of the media and political cover-up. Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #13

What makes you think the CIA and FBI were in on it, up to their eyeballs? uhnope May 2016 #14

certain gates were opened and certain protocols were used that could ONLY be done librechik May 2016 #35

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Not to mention a score of anomalies, like Building 7 just falling down on its own. nt 99th_Monkey May 2016 #59

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Could you summarize the info and evidence about these gates uhnope May 2016 #60

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could you summarize the proof that the CIA/FBI was involved uhnope May 2016 #61

Start with this. leveymg May 2016 #65

So, we can summarize that as: uhnope May 2016 #114

Yes, and all that it implies. If you read through the replies, here's my take: leveymg May 2016 #116

those implications would also need some hard proof. uhnope May 2016 #117

I suggest you read the longer article about CIA-UBL ties, and come back with specific questions. leveymg May 2016 #119

years of research and reading Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #90

could you summarize a bit of the more damning & obvious evidence pls uhnope May 2016 #103

this site is pretty solid Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #111

thank you, but that site looks to be hundreds of web pages long uhnope May 2016 #113

the simple answer is that both the CIA and FBI both had extensive foreknowledge of the plot Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #115

thank you, that's a good summary uhnope May 2016 #118

I suspect you will nitpick this to death and never really be satisfied with anything I show Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #122

sorry but that's just a massive fail uhnope May 2016 #123

What exact sort of proof do you want? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #124

basic meaning of words like nitpick and proof uhnope May 2016 #125

well, again, what sort of evidence do you want? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #128

did you actually read any of the evidence links provided librechik May 2016 #132

Wayne Simmons uhnope May 2016 #143

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... Major Nikon May 2016 #75

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see post #123 uhnope May 2016 #133

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fear fear fear fear fear EdwardBernays May 2016 #29

your opinion only maxsolomon May 2016 #135

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a tad out of context, though maxsolomon May 2016 #141

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typo troll uhnope May 2016 #102

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MIHOP. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #43

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