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xchrom

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Fri Jun 8, 2012, 07:02 AM Jun 2012

How Police and Traffic Light Companies Are Conspiring to Give You More Tickets [View all]

http://www.alternet.org/rights/155751/how_police_and_traffic_light_companies_are_conspiring_to_give_you_more_tickets/


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Many areas of the country are experiencing a sudden rise in the number of speed and traffic cameras installed near roads. While some cameras have been a welcome development in curbing dangerous driving, many motorists have complained about what they perceive as an effort by authorities to simply extract revenue without community input on such policies. Growing evidence that many privatized traffic companies use faulty information, including right-hand turns, to assign red light tickets has only added to the anger. As legislators confront the backlash, a self-interested partnership has formed to lobby against accountability methods for these cameras: police unions and for-profit red-light camera companies.

In state after state, police unions and for-profit traffic camera companies have teamed up to defeat laws proposed to ensure that traffic policies are designed for public safety rather than to collect revenue. In Connecticut, police unions and traffic light companies opposed efforts to simply expand the length of yellow lights — despite studies showing that doing so would reduce red light violations by 90 percent — in favor of increased for-profit red light cameras. In Florida last year, American Traffic Solutions, one of the largest for-profit camera corporations, hired 17 lobbyists to defeat a similar bill. The company circulated a letter signed by police chiefs, and worked closely with officials from the Florida Sheriff’s Association, a labor group, to pressure legislators. In California, a bill by State Sen. Joseph Simitian (D-Palo Alto) to ensure that traffic cameras can only be set up to promote public safety rather than collect revenue was opposed by the California Police Chiefs, a law enforcement labor union group.

The media is beginning to take note of the collusion between police unions and for-profit camera companies. In Texas, a high ranking police union official was reportedly paid simultaneously by American Traffic Solutions to lobby against legislation to limit the use of these cameras, according to an investigation by a local ABC News affiliate. Across the country, for-profit traffic light companies have hid behind a front group they set up called the “National Coalition for Safer Roads” to defeat efforts to ensure traffic lights are only set up for public safety reasons. Police union representatives have appeared with the group.
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Hey, but at least we got no new taxes BeyondGeography Jun 2012 #1
How is this a "savvy PR move"? pipoman Jun 2012 #4
It's called sarcasm BeyondGeography Jun 2012 #21
I'm a traffic lawyer. This article is correct. no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #2
What is your level of responsibility for exboyfil Jun 2012 #7
I find the entire venture of "trapping" motorists to be repugnant. no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #12
This is big in Iowa exboyfil Jun 2012 #15
I'm not sure how it is everywhere, but around here rbixby Jun 2012 #25
Problem I find with them is I no longer check for vehicles about to run a red light into me NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #9
Agreed Sherman A1 Jun 2012 #23
You're lucky! I think I've got 19 between work and home, and its only 3 miles. rbixby Jun 2012 #26
A wave of religious epiphany to ensue? BadgerKid Jun 2012 #3
A movement pipoman Jun 2012 #5
i agree. i like them. mopinko Jun 2012 #18
Except they haven't. Totally against these revenue generators. truebrit71 Jun 2012 #28
well, it's a pity that there is no data there about injuries. mopinko Jun 2012 #29
Biggest improvement in Chicago is the addition of timers. ieoeja Jun 2012 #34
Yep. Nothing like a regressive tax to hurt the poor slob driving to work to make ends meet. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #35
assholes are people who run red lights then mopinko Jun 2012 #40
You are in a thread with evidence the system is being gamed nationwide ... Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #41
no evidence it is being gamed here. mopinko Jun 2012 #44
Do you think it is fair and appropriate that a driver coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #42
I'm wary of any company whose name ends with "Solutions" KansDem Jun 2012 #6
There is. Not enough of someone else's money RC Jun 2012 #36
My studies show... kentuck Jun 2012 #8
So the cops and the traffic signal companies are giving aid to Hubert Flottz Jun 2012 #22
But of course Hubert Flottz. lonestarnot Jun 2012 #55
I wish they would do a study on speed bumps. ieoeja Jun 2012 #37
I would never want a speed bump in front of my house. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #45
I knew there had to be a downside to those things NJCher Jun 2012 #53
Ever get the feeling that if weren't for usury, fraud, kickbacks and scams........ marmar Jun 2012 #10
Yeah.. kentuck Jun 2012 #13
word xchrom Jun 2012 #16
Yeah . . Strelnikov_ Jun 2012 #33
You also, huh? RC Jun 2012 #38
I suspect that Islam's prohibition against usury drives a whole lot of the "Evil Muslim" hysteria Tom Ripley Jun 2012 #49
One other point> When it's raining like hell and the roads are slick (or more slick) you're.... BlueJazz Jun 2012 #11
In GA DUI-Safe laws are generating revenue CanOfWhoopAss Jun 2012 #14
Had I told people in 1980 that we would soon be having roadblocks checking for drunk drivers... ieoeja Jun 2012 #39
I have also had friends receive tickets in the mail obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #17
My dad got a ticket in the mail for a toll road violation in Orange County. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #46
Exactly obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #48
One saved my arse SecurityManager Jun 2012 #19
Sigh. RitchieRich Jun 2012 #20
Liberalism isn't perfect. Zalatix Jun 2012 #30
This has always been controvercial... Javaman Jun 2012 #24
Here's how they get around that in Texas Major Nikon Jun 2012 #57
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2012 #27
red light cameras outside university where I teach NJCher Jun 2012 #31
Interesting...ala. fine is 50.00 and few cameras dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #47
I just got one of these for right turn on red.... cbdo2007 Jun 2012 #32
Sounds like our brave new Amercia. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #43
This is what happens when you allow private companies to take over public responsibilities Major Nikon Jun 2012 #50
They're going to hire Rmoney to impersonate a traffic cop... Blue Owl Jun 2012 #51
There should be no unions for law enforcement. Dawson Leery Jun 2012 #52
The traffic cops are an extortion racket. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #54
These things are everywhere in Canada Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2012 #56
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