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louis c

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161. I Couldn't Agree More

Sat May 21, 2016, 07:18 AM

May 2016

I am a 12 year member of Democratic Underground.

That's Democratic Underground, not "Independent Underground" or "Socialist Underground".

We may differ on ideas, but in the end, I thought we were supposed work toward advancing the cause of Democrats.

In 2008, I was a Hillary supporter. The minute Obama was the Democratic candidate, I worked just as hard for him,

I guess that's the difference between being a 40 year Democrat and just using the party as a vessel for your own ideology.

I post here much less frequently because of the vitriol from people who think this forum is something other than what I thought it was when I joined in 2004.

If this site turns out to be working to undermine the Presidential candidate of the Democratic party, either intentionally, or through a lack of control, I, too, will depart.

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DU is but a shadow of what it used to be. [View all] 7wo7rees May 2016 OP

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Just curious? How long have you been lurking? And 7wo7rees May 2016 #2

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This site does. Welcome. Good luck. 7wo7rees May 2016 #4

Welcome here. lovemydog May 2016 #5

Yeah, don't judge the place based upon how it is at this.... exact moment. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #29

Thank you, for all your wisdom in this thread. :) 7wo7rees May 2016 #123

Sure is similar!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #151

It would be nice to think that possible, Sherman A1 May 2016 #6

Buck up. We can be the best. All we have to do is 7wo7rees May 2016 #7

No Sherman A1 May 2016 #14

All true. Wish you all the best. UmK? 7wo7rees May 2016 #15

Agree. Katashi_itto May 2016 #23

Or planes down nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #68

Thanks for dropping in. Do you think DU will recover? 7wo7rees May 2016 #126

Nope nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #134

I don't think we're welcome anymore honestly Kittycat May 2016 #135

Ok.and you are right. I believe this is harsh as ever in my 7wo7rees May 2016 #136

Joined in 2004 Stryguy May 2016 #8

Clinton vs Obama was nothing like this Democat May 2016 #10

I want to vomit reading all the new "rape" threads here today. Justitia May 2016 #16

I'm not sure what happened to the admins in the last few months Democat May 2016 #25

Sure it was Egnever May 2016 #55

+1,000,000 nt Andy823 May 2016 #63

Interesting perspective. 7wo7rees May 2016 #11

for a very good reason maxsolomon May 2016 #84

People will be banned for defending both Democrats Democat May 2016 #9

Oh for f's sake! Really? 7wo7rees May 2016 #12

By their inactivity, the admins are encouraging attacks on Democrats Democat May 2016 #13

+ gazillion! Cryptoad May 2016 #17

I've have posts hidden for calling out NRA talking points here and by word police Feeling the Bern May 2016 #19

This was bound to be affected by your police state, like Joe Chi Minh May 2016 #33

This is the second post where you've claimed that admins could easily fix the problem Capt. Obvious May 2016 #64

Well they do have something planned. Egnever May 2016 #121

What nonsense. cwydro May 2016 #36

Checked the LBN forum lately? Democat May 2016 #50

And they've said they're going to let this primary nonsense run its course. cwydro May 2016 #57

I've been defending both and so far I only have one hide. Rex May 2016 #152

Better to form new connections elsewhere. All good things come to an end. sibelian May 2016 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author carolinayellowdog May 2016 #79

Very sad.... and very true. sibelian May 2016 #148

I think a Republican potus is the only thing that can make that happen. Cassiopeia May 2016 #20

I agree with that. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #159

Time has come! Cryptoad May 2016 #21

Yes, that's the way to do it. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #30

I guess if u are in right click Cryptoad May 2016 #40

that doesn't even make any sense. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #75

Its no difference than me calling u a Babbling Idiot cause Cryptoad May 2016 #89

Go ahead and call me a babbling idiot, I don't care. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #92

You're not in any clique??? But, I've already made our sign, dang-it! opiate69 May 2016 #103

Any club that would have me, as they say Warren DeMontague May 2016 #104

Heh... indeed! opiate69 May 2016 #105

Exactly. cheapdate May 2016 #130

Hah,,,, I wrote my post just as intended,,,, Cryptoad May 2016 #146

yokay. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #149

I wondered where my hat went. LiberalArkie May 2016 #155

And I've been wondering where my bike helmet, par30 bulbs, mini disco balls & stainless steel wisks Warren DeMontague May 2016 #157

That's a PERFECT way to extend friendly greetings and spread warmth to all DUers! Quantess May 2016 #139

The 'Trump disease' of using vitriol rather than talking policy is apparently contagious. pampango May 2016 #22

Look at Internet discourse in general, discussion sites in particular. AngryOldDem May 2016 #24

Why does DU have to be like the rest of the internet liberal N proud May 2016 #28

DU doesn't have to be. AngryOldDem May 2016 #34

I recall that at one time, you needed to be able to back up what you posted with evidence liberal N proud May 2016 #26

I think having to back up your assertions is key. You're right, back then that's what was the AgadorSparticus May 2016 #107

You used to be able to buy a loaf of bread with a nickel Orrex May 2016 #27

But back then it was an eight-cent nickel... Brother Buzz May 2016 #47

Explain, pls. When were nickels worth eight cents? brush May 2016 #52

Google Captain Spaulding seven-cent nickel Brother Buzz May 2016 #54

You've left out a Hungerdunger. You left out the main one, too. My Good Babushka May 2016 #58

But Professor Wagstaff did give the Republicans their anthem Brother Buzz May 2016 #65

I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time frylock May 2016 #69

I knew you'd chime in here, you batard! pinboy3niner May 2016 #74

The democratic party isn't what it used to be either. TheFarseer May 2016 #31

This is it in a nutshell. AngryOldDem May 2016 #35

I don't think DU is ever capable of being what we thought it was again Hydra May 2016 #32

Your first paragraph - damn stright TheFarseer May 2016 #48

Thanks for weighing in. Miss you. 7wo7rees May 2016 #125

Thank you! Hydra May 2016 #145

co-signed... Blue_Tires May 2016 #37

The fracture on this site is... sendero May 2016 #38

Well said Katashi_itto May 2016 #41

Agreed. nt DLevine May 2016 #44

By your standard, FDR and JFK would be 'moderate Republicans' Albertoo May 2016 #93

FDR proposed single-payer healthcare. jeff47 May 2016 #94

I am for universal health care, but not single payer Albertoo May 2016 #96

I don't care. jeff47 May 2016 #99

I was answering your post #94 Albertoo May 2016 #100

excuse me? How is what Bernie is proposing more left than the New Deal? liberal_at_heart May 2016 #109

The difference between reformists and iseologues is the principle of reality Albertoo May 2016 #114

And do you know who proves you and the think tanks wrong? liberal_at_heart May 2016 #115

That's just slogans. Fact is Sanders economic plan doesn't add up. Albertoo May 2016 #116

Sorry incrementalism has had its chance for over 30 years now and has failed. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #117

Failed? How so? Albertoo May 2016 #118

Yeah, and the trade policies will continue to erode our wages until we are on par with liberal_at_heart May 2016 #119

You forgot something in your picture: the world Albertoo May 2016 #124

His first term was sensible? Wow. We obviously have very different ideas about liberal_at_heart May 2016 #127

Sleep well Albertoo May 2016 #128

+10000 the person your dealing with loves revisonism. Katashi_itto May 2016 #141

What a strange statement Albertoo May 2016 #166

+1 cheapdate May 2016 #131

Thanks for your contributions to understanding, Hortensis May 2016 #162

;) Albertoo May 2016 #167

I think we as Democrats saw the republicans were able to stick together Jim Beard May 2016 #106

This site started going downhill after the 2010 election. Odin2005 May 2016 #39

+1 nt Javaman May 2016 #46

That's when I left for a while. nemo137 May 2016 #66

People kept shitting where everyone sleeps, so eventually folks went and made their own homes. Rex May 2016 #42

To me, I view it sort of how I view the PPACA TransitJohn May 2016 #43

i still stop by to read the talking points from msm Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #45

Some of us old-timers hope you'll keep coming here Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #83

Thank you. nt 7wo7rees May 2016 #122

Frankly, I'm having a blast with all the tomfoolery & hair on fire hysteria. GOLGO 13 May 2016 #49

This post right here is a classic example of why people are leaving DU in droves. Maedhros May 2016 #53

Well, that and getting alert stalked! BillZBubb May 2016 #77

Yep, 1st class snark with nothing but a smug attitude mrdmk May 2016 #138

It's become a place of farcical, mostly rightwing "jabs," posted in lieu of "discussion" villager May 2016 #51

It seems the same to me My Good Babushka May 2016 #56

With you! cheapdate May 2016 #129

America is but a shadow of what it used to be tularetom May 2016 #59

Should have had better candidates... TipTok May 2016 #60

DU will "come together and be the community it used to be" when there is a Republican president. TacoD May 2016 #61

Those who are left, no longer care. HuckleB May 2016 #62

The veil was lifted in 2009 when it became obvious that the only thing many of us had in common.. frylock May 2016 #67

+1000! nt nc4bo May 2016 #70

Derp. HuckleB May 2016 #72

Insightful analysis. frylock May 2016 #73

Just as insightful as your meaningless response. HuckleB May 2016 #80

Once again. frylock May 2016 #82

I'm glad you can clap. HuckleB May 2016 #102

You're phoning it in. frylock May 2016 #110

And this post is a perfect example of why there will be no "coming back together". (nt) jeff47 May 2016 #95

Derp. HuckleB May 2016 #101

This is a great example of how far the site has fallen when "derp" is the most you can DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #137

Irony. HuckleB May 2016 #140

Yeah, exactly. Some of it was sort of inevitable. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #78

It's harder to be in charge, no question about it. HuckleB May 2016 #85

THAT is the unvarnished truth. nt Bonobo May 2016 #97

I am sure the reason many on DU were against the Iraq war was because Bush wasn't a Democrat. nt m-lekktor May 2016 #111

I'm convinced of that as well. frylock May 2016 #112

I'm not going anywhere. Aristus May 2016 #71

2008 was just as bad. The best days were back in the early 2000's The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #76

If you think something is missing, why not post it yourself? hunter May 2016 #81

+1 cheapdate May 2016 #132

The rancid state of certain forums and groups on DU is directly related to this guy- MerryBlooms May 2016 #86

I've been here all this time. nt MrScorpio May 2016 #87

I so agree. There is just too much snark, arrogance, and vitriol. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #88

Yup. n/t fleabiscuit May 2016 #108

So who's going to Make DU Great Again? GaYellowDawg May 2016 #90

The hillbots. After all the plan is to make just this another echo chamber. Katashi_itto May 2016 #142

"Hillbots" should be a hide if not ban Democat May 2016 #163

Ah the irony, it burns.... Katashi_itto May 2016 #165

Trump? redwitch May 2016 #171

I think we all have the same goals SCantiGOP May 2016 #91

All things change libodem May 2016 #98

I miss the humor KT2000 May 2016 #113

The direction of DU has not been a positive one, nor a progressive one. southerncrone May 2016 #120

Understand. And understood. Is there any damned way to 7wo7rees May 2016 #133

I suppose personal attack-rants could be locked out for starters. southerncrone May 2016 #160

DU was better when W was in office. I don't know of anything else that was. nt raccoon May 2016 #143

It was inevitable. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #144

There are plenty of real trolls here Democat May 2016 #164

"Troll" is a term so overused around here it has lost all connection to its intended meaning. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #168

DU now features a small contingent of posters DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #147

Indeed!! HOPNOSH May 2016 #154

I know that one--the one that ends with the Omani Air Force shooting the plane down. DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #158

People should read pintobean May 2016 #170

DU now features a small contingent of posters. DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #172

And a large contingent of jerks pintobean May 2016 #173

Sure, but what does that have to do with my post about lying and AM radio tactics? DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #174

Still beats the hell out of Frei Republik. KamaAina May 2016 #150

I don't see much 'underground' about DU anymore. A lot of posters RKP5637 May 2016 #153

Many great people passed on Depaysement May 2016 #156

I Couldn't Agree More louis c May 2016 #161

anyone who is 100% behind any politician is a fucking IDIOT Skittles May 2016 #169