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Hortensis

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162. Thanks for your contributions to understanding,

Sat May 21, 2016, 08:56 AM

May 2016

Albertoo.

I recommend those inclined to disagree perhaps just re-read thoughtfully and consider whether there could be any truth to any part of this. Albertoo has done his homework on these issues.

Seems to me I haven't noticed as many "evil capitalism" posts on DU lately. If it's actually the case, perhaps Bernie could be back-pedaling on that during the campaign?

But I agree the personal profit motive is far too important an economic driver to make doing away with it, instead of just strictly controlling it, a functional course. That said, I find villifying capitalism, as if it were all bad and needed to be destroyed, as highly suspicious and questionable as villification and villifiers always are.

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