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In reply to the discussion: Why all the hate towards Cornell West? [View all]Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)333. It was his word, none of us would have said it that way.
Why does that one moment matter so much? Why does it outweigh all the decades of brilliant good the man has done in the intellectual service of virtually anti-oppression cause you can think of? It's not as though Dr. West's analysis of race and class and oppression has been anything less than totally spot on over the years.
BTW...if HRC does get elected, in a few months she's going to throw the AA community under the bus. You know that as well as I do. When she does, it will be people who campaigned for Bernie(including the 50% of AA voters under 30 who support him) marching with you as you fight back. The centrists will be telling you to shut up and shouting "the Court, the Court, the Court" in order to shut you up-and then ordering the pepper spray and the beatings.
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Because he picked neoliberal financial people like Larry Summers and Tim Geithner for starters
Ned_Devine
May 2016
#44
I think that comment says pretty much everything about your stance on this subject
Egnever
May 2016
#309
No, he was not at all clear about who he was. I voted for him because he was NEW--
Peace Patriot
May 2016
#320
It was me, and I apologize, I realized right after I didit that it was a mistake.
Baobab
May 2016
#228
and a lot of people don't like Clinton and would rather see anyone in the White House than
Hiraeth
May 2016
#103
Obama not only didnt sell out, but spoiled, privileged Americans who attack him are gonna miss him
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#32
Obama is supposed to arrest and convict them? Didnt you say here or somewhere Obama is a sellout
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#64
Yes. Most who are angry dont really have the first clue how great Obama has been.
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#99
Fantastic posts from you in this thread. Not that they will make ONE BIT OF DIFFERENCE
Number23
May 2016
#467
Thank you, it is embarrassing to see how little people really know about Obama and what
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#470
Thanks...Obama has been so successful in so many ways, but the Obama haters
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#286
Great. But Obama let Bush and Cheney, and ALL the Warmongers, Spies & Banksters, go free.
Octafish
May 2016
#102
First, YOU wouldnt have the guts to go after those guys, trust me. If all you have is this
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#105
Technically he didn't sell out he always tried to have it both ways and make race a nonissue.
craigmatic
May 2016
#345
"Out of all of West's life, his single act of criticizing Obama makes him impure now"
PragmaticLiberal
May 2016
#229
What in the WORLD does freedom of speech have to do with this conversation?
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#35
You are confused about where freedom of speech arguments belong and dont
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#310
West is free to express his opinion and we are free to think that he is an idiot
Gothmog
May 2016
#66
yes, and it also affords us the right to discuss cornell well critically. nt
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2016
#90
Obama hated Blumenthal and blacklisted him. Yet Hillary Clinton used him as a source
polly7
May 2016
#45
One can still be a liberal and take issue with calling Barack Obama the "first niggerized President"
TwilightZone
May 2016
#52
Well, that is a long and sad story. It started back in the early 1990s. Many of us were taken in....
Enthusiast
May 2016
#218
What (other than irrational biases) specifically leads you to believe that criticism
LanternWaste
May 2016
#26
If you think this all started with Bernie you haven't been paying attention to Cornel
Egnever
May 2016
#138
Oh, definitely not. Dr. West was not shy about voicing his disappointment with Obama's
Gene Debs
May 2016
#161
Because he's been a blowhard forever and is in love with the sound of his own voice?
Hekate
May 2016
#46
I personally would have liked another choice, because I feel the pain and the hatred due to his
highprincipleswork
May 2016
#48
I have to say Cornel West is the most caring and understanding person I have ever met
fasttense
May 2016
#61
i don't worship him, but i do respect him and his presidency. I don't think an academic really
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2016
#98
i didn't say that though. you took something i said and reinterpreted it to fit your narrative.
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2016
#212
at the risk of sounding divisive: I think he was targeted for being the blackest of Sanders picks.
Betty Karlson
May 2016
#106
People in the AA group here at DU were criticizing him for ages before this primary season
gollygee
May 2016
#169
I think we all know that back in the 90-ies, the majority of the targets of that slur were PoC.
Betty Karlson
May 2016
#287
You mean the guy who called Obama "niggerized" last year?!?!? A better question is why all the love?
uponit7771
May 2016
#109
Something vile and unbecoming but somehow people ask why the hate for this vile asshole...
uponit7771
May 2016
#131
Yeap, Sanders "likes" a guy who called Obama niggerized last year and has him stump in front
uponit7771
May 2016
#158
Because he says over the top, stupid shit like praising Trump as "authentic":
SunSeeker
May 2016
#115
Calling Obama "niggerized" is a tad bit more than "criticized" but of course Sanders camp likes him
uponit7771
May 2016
#133
Calling Obama "niggerized' = so what?! REALLY!?!... ok, bookmarked, screen printed and saved
uponit7771
May 2016
#148
which is bullshit on a stick since it's false on its face, there's no narrative to fit. West is an..
uponit7771
May 2016
#159
bullshit, Obama spoke on race and racial supremecy before he was elected. West is an asshole
uponit7771
May 2016
#233
we agree, MUCH MUCH MUCH harder to talk about it BEFORE upcoming election than after but West
uponit7771
May 2016
#238
Don't bother. The poster you're replying to insists that the N-word isn't even a slur.
TwilightZone
May 2016
#256
Please stop calling Brother West names like that. Many of us like Brother West very much.
Enthusiast
May 2016
#243
Fuck Cornell West and the horse he road in on. Calling Obama some form of nigger isn't progressive
uponit7771
May 2016
#252
Yes, ... yes it does... West "shines" in front of white people calling Obama as many vile names
uponit7771
May 2016
#476
They'll swear up and down none of this happened... racially it seems like we're taking a step
uponit7771
May 2016
#177
That's tru, but when made aware they talk about free speech & shit, some people have to check their
uponit7771
May 2016
#184
+1, they'll gas light the shit out of threads like this and act like they don't exist
uponit7771
May 2016
#189
Calling anyone any form of nigger is inappropriate not matter what the "natter" was. The bigger issu
uponit7771
May 2016
#334
I DON'T approve of the use of the word. It's nothing I ever would have said.
Ken Burch
May 2016
#335
You're right, I am protective of Bernie. I'll cop to being oversensitive on that.
Ken Burch
May 2016
#384
He can be all that and NOT label the president some form of nigger (er inflection) either. The other
uponit7771
May 2016
#430
No it's not enough, that's so very privileged of you to say and I don't care what color your skin is
uponit7771
May 2016
#461
Well done cropping the explanation, it really strengthens your position not posting it in full
Bodhi BloodWave
May 2016
#482
Personally i still respect the fellow, tho it went down a tad with the use of that word
Bodhi BloodWave
May 2016
#484
No, not at all..Obama spoke about racial issues before he was elected... this is bullshit on a stick
uponit7771
May 2016
#149
Or racist dum asses love a guy who calls Obama niggerized like west did last year and the excuse
uponit7771
May 2016
#151
So you are saying that black BLM activist and leader Cornel West is racist against Black people?
AgingAmerican
May 2016
#231
I could give a fuck if he was Jesus hurling forms of racist slurs at the president in front of mostl
uponit7771
May 2016
#431
What I said was clear, you don't label people racist terms or any form of them if you're a true
uponit7771
May 2016
#454
Nah, just an asshole who doesn't mind normalizing forms of racist terms in front of white people
uponit7771
May 2016
#455
he has attacked Obama too many times for things beyond Obama's control or expecting
Demonaut
May 2016
#154
Obama got 76% of his agenda passed who in the hell is that "passive"... wow.. you guys are
uponit7771
May 2016
#193
Me too, I don't think he's used his God given abilities to explain to America why its a good deal
uponit7771
May 2016
#340
I've yet to hear it. Just make the claim of 650,000 new jobs. Which is way untrue.
Enthusiast
May 2016
#357
No. Why even have a new treaty then? Why bother? Any defense of the TPP and TTIP
Enthusiast
May 2016
#451
IfYou think calling Obama some form of nigger is acceptable then I pray you don't think your welcome
uponit7771
May 2016
#196
Better a kiss from an enemy than a stab in the back from a friend, that's a proveb you walked right
uponit7771
May 2016
#414
oh hell no i just fear part of the party are no longer able to tell the differnence
dembotoz
May 2016
#472
Nope, not happy with people calling the Obama some form of nigger at all... I'm using the term to
uponit7771
May 2016
#325
He represents what we could have accomplished for the people. People don't like to be
jtuck004
May 2016
#173
This is false on its face, "niggerized" is a form of nigger... I don't' live on planet Unicornia
uponit7771
May 2016
#240
Well you can be for racial equality and still attack someone who agrees with you
Warpy
May 2016
#180
We agree again, the people excusing this behavior of West will claim up and down they didn't
uponit7771
May 2016
#224
Yeap, called Obama some form of nigger but that's acceptable to some people
uponit7771
May 2016
#227
Of course not, once does not make a person nor does one believing it was isolated with West make it
uponit7771
May 2016
#248
BULL FUCKIN SHIT!!! Calling Obama some form of nigger doesn't sit well with black folk at all
uponit7771
May 2016
#342
Bullshit, we can read... he said Obama wasn't expressing disdain for white supremecy and he did
uponit7771
May 2016
#339
Yeah, "harsh language" is calling the president some form of nigger... glad that's what people...
uponit7771
May 2016
#400
Calling Obama ni*****zed is pretty pathetic. He can be your champion, he's not mine
frankieallen
May 2016
#322
You should have saved your rhetorical question and just admitted you don't care for Obama
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
May 2016
#328
Hopefully he's not "perfect", shit... he's human... no one needs "perfect" were faithful is more tha
uponit7771
May 2016
#344
Or he calls a black president some form of nigger and the "progressives" think it's appropriate?!
uponit7771
May 2016
#337
No...it's just that Bernie supporters don't think it's all that matters about Dr. West.
Ken Burch
May 2016
#341
No it isn't, he's an asshole who OPENLY hates Obama because he didn't give him the right seating
uponit7771
May 2016
#343
It's one thing to say that, because Bernie had never considered running for president prior to 2014
Ken Burch
May 2016
#348
I do listen and have tried to be responsive. Sorry if I'm not always good at conveying that.
Ken Burch
May 2016
#358
A lot of black politico KNOW the "progressive" side of the left is no better racially then moderate
uponit7771
May 2016
#405
He criticized Obama. Before that, he was wonderful. Then, he liked Bernie better than Hillary,
merrily
May 2016
#351
You ask 'why his Cornel hated when he's a progressive?' == THAT's what gets him hated!!!
cloudythescribbler
May 2016
#355
Ah, I get it... "progressives" think its ok to call black people some form of nigger... ah ok... no
uponit7771
May 2016
#399
from where in particular do u reason to the notion of using the 'n-word' or a close surrogate term?
cloudythescribbler
May 2016
#445
further seeing some of ur many other comments on this thread, I now know what ur referring to ...
cloudythescribbler
May 2016
#450
By calling Obama some form of nigger and saying he's something in "blackface"?! That's MORAL NOW?!
uponit7771
May 2016
#401
No, hes an asshole who started throwing shade on Obama because of seating arrangements and then
uponit7771
May 2016
#404
Thanks for posting this. I was unaware of the rabid hatred toward a truly outstanding person.
Judi Lynn
May 2016
#373
Truly outstanding is calling Obama some form of nigger and saying he's blackfaced?! So progressive
uponit7771
May 2016
#403
Because a lot of people on DU are personality cultists and are offended by insufficient loyalty.
LeftyMom
May 2016
#379
Or greatly offended by West calling Obama some form of nigger, I'm not happy people don't see that
uponit7771
May 2016
#398
Until he called Obama some form of nigger, of course he was popular before that but the people
uponit7771
May 2016
#397
This has nothing to do with Clinton and everything to do with Obama
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2016
#394
i am Democrat who believes that people should not make up lies about the democratic president
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2016
#463
Few understand the context of his remarks and simply think he called Obama the N word.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2016
#389
People can read and understand calling Obama any form of nigger (with the er) is fucked up but the
uponit7771
May 2016
#402
Learn the context. Start with Florynce Kennedy. West didn't call anyone the n word.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2016
#406
I did see the context and he's still wrong, he said Obama was some form of nigger (with er) because
uponit7771
May 2016
#408
He didn't call Barack Obama the N word no matter how much you wish it to be so.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2016
#411
Strawman, never said he did... I said he called him a FORM of nigger and that's a fact that's
uponit7771
May 2016
#413
I don't tolerate racism from anyone in any form, I don't give a fuck about the context of the word
uponit7771
May 2016
#418
West stayed loyal to principles rather than personalities. That's a crime among some "Democrats."
Scuba
May 2016
#407
Yeah, he's principled to call Obama some form of nigger (with er inflection) and so called....
uponit7771
May 2016
#409
I would not have picked the word he used, but then I'm not a black champion of civil rights.
Scuba
May 2016
#410
He used words like "blackface" Obama is "Zimmerman" globally and other choice terms to ...
uponit7771
May 2016
#412
The policies of the ruling class kill millions yet some focus on the language used by their critics.
Scuba
May 2016
#424
Racist language is part of the ruling classes verbiage but again, excuse his racist ass'd verbiage
uponit7771
May 2016
#427
He won't sit down, shut-up and fall in line. Oh and he speaks his mind. People HATE that. n/t
leeroysphitz
May 2016
#416
He doesn't have to do any of that and not call Obama a form of nigger in front of mostly white peopl
uponit7771
May 2016
#419
We agree, the truth about West is he's "shining" by throwing shade at Obama using racist terms ...
uponit7771
May 2016
#421
39 times has the N word come up in this thread... and EVERY TIME, you posted it.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2016
#423
Yeah, you're right... niggerized doesn't equal nigger so they're not the same thing :rolleyes:
uponit7771
May 2016
#428
First correct thing you've posted. Not the same. One is a verb, the other a noun.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2016
#436
Good, we agree.. racist assholes think the word is still something one would call a person...
uponit7771
May 2016
#453
+1, that's EXACTLY what West has called Obama in so many words cause he felt slighted over
uponit7771
May 2016
#429
Calling the first black president some form of nigger (er enflection) is deplorable to progressives
uponit7771
May 2016
#475
Or he called the first black president some form of nigger?! Jus a guess, seeing this thread the far
uponit7771
May 2016
#474
No, just an asshole who used racialized words that for some reason the "far left" accepts
uponit7771
May 2016
#485
Nope, just stating facts... this thread is proof positive the "far left" is too tolerant of racist..
uponit7771
May 2016
#489
This thread is Exhibit 5,247,992 in ways that black folks and white "leftists" have little in common
Number23
May 2016
#471
Not wanting the black president to be called some form of nigger isn't "OBSESSED" with anything
uponit7771
May 2016
#486
It goes to Bernie's poor judgement of people with whom he surrounds himself
redstateblues
May 2016
#479