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pnwmom

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4. "Now, I'm standing my ground here. Now, these people are going to try and kill me."
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 12:28 PM
Jun 2012

If you'd have listened to the tape, he uses those very words.

The fact that the jury indicted him does not preclude any defense he may wish to make, including a stand your ground defense; it just means his claim wasn't automatically accepted, as the police first tried to do with Zimmerman. It will be up to the trial jury to decide if they accept that defense or any other defense -- the indictment just means the Grand Jury found probable cause to think that he MIGHT be found guilty by a jury.

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/man-claims-self-defense-fatal-shooting-neighbor-115652180--abc-news-topstories.html


"It's about to get out of hand sir, please help me. Please help me, my life is in danger now…," Rodriguez told police over the phone. "Now, I'm standing my ground here. Now, these people are going to try and kill me."

Seconds later, a fight about loud music ends with the crack of gunfire.

"Look, I'm not losing to these people anymore," Rodriguez said. "I'm just totally going to stay back, because they're drunk, they're…"

Rodriguez is interrupted by wild laughter, and then the sound of gunfire, before the tape stops as Rodriguez is tackled to the ground. In addition to the shot that killed Danaher, Houston Fire Capt. Ricky Johnson and Marshall Stetson received multiple gunshot wounds after the camera stopped

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People need to learn what that phrase actually means. TheWraith Jun 2012 #1
But he was assaulted. pnwmom Jun 2012 #16
Paranoia is the defining characteristic of gun culture. nt onehandle Jun 2012 #2
As pointed out in the other thread on this metalbot Jun 2012 #3
"Now, I'm standing my ground here. Now, these people are going to try and kill me." pnwmom Jun 2012 #4
He's not claiming stand your ground metalbot Jun 2012 #5
You're splitting hairs. He used the "standing my ground" claim to justify to 911 pnwmom Jun 2012 #9
Him saying it doesn't make it law. 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #6
No, it doesn't. It's merely a "claim." Unfortunately, even if he is wrong pnwmom Jun 2012 #7
Right, but him being an idiot doesn't mean that the law in general is wrong 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #11
The law is poorly written if too many people misunderstand it to think shootings pnwmom Jun 2012 #13
The law is pretty clear: 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #17
It is not clear to the many people who are defending him on the basis of SYG. pnwmom Jun 2012 #19
The many people? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #20
Would you be willing to pull the switch on him? You have already convicted and sentenced him. oneshooter Jun 2012 #28
Rodriguez convicted his victim of excessive noise and then shot him to death. pnwmom Jun 2012 #31
So the fact he chose to shoot firemen.... dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #24
That is something I had not considered sarisataka Jun 2012 #25
Good question. He had some kind of gripe with the department, pnwmom Jun 2012 #29
Excellent question. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #30
Terrific find -- thanks for posting obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #8
I know. He was expecting a serious confrontation and decided to tape it. pnwmom Jun 2012 #12
Exactly obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #23
Another NRA hero. n/t Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #10
Thanks for the very enlightening background here, pnwmom. That's really something, there. freshwest Jun 2012 #14
You're welcome, freshwest. n/t pnwmom Jun 2012 #15
If ours were a healthy society Mairead Jun 2012 #18
Texas penal code has rules for loud music, the police should have been call to have this handled. Thinkingabout Jun 2012 #21
I agree he was at fault. He did call 911 about the loud music, but they didn't get there pnwmom Jun 2012 #22
It's clear he was just some paranoid, passive-aggressive with some serious maturity/anger issues Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #27
I'd said in the other thread that it was pretty soft for "loud" music... Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #26
In fact, the police had already investigated Raul's noise complaint, and decided to take no action. pnwmom Jun 2012 #32
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