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Rex

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25. It is real simple, 30 06 round are meant to kill large game. .223 and 5.56 rounds are meant to kill

Sun May 29, 2016, 08:22 PM

May 2016

people. The military did not design the M-16 and the M-4 to kill Bambi...let us be honest in this thread some of you are getting way off topic.

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An Example Why AR-15s should be limited use [View all] discocrisco01 May 2016 OP

how about DustyJoe May 2016 #1

Yes Old Codger May 2016 #2

I know, it's the damned wood. Eleanors38 May 2016 #9

I've always found that interesting. Kang Colby May 2016 #51

must be the word -mini- DustyJoe Jun 2016 #109

How is an AR-15 a "high powered weapon", it is a weak small caliber, too weak for serious hunting. braddy May 2016 #3

But great for hunting humans SCantiGOP May 2016 #4

For 50 years soldiers in combat have complained at how lousy it is at killing humans. braddy May 2016 #5

If you're not using FMJ ammunition, it's plenty capable of dealing death....nt aka-chmeee May 2016 #13

Do you consider the AR as the "high-powered weapon" compared to traditional deer and large game braddy May 2016 #15

Who cares, when we are talking about hunting people a velocity of 3,240 fps easily does it. Rex May 2016 #24

Except that it doesn't do it, the soldiers have complained about it's weakness for 50 years. braddy May 2016 #27

We are not talking about soldiers, we are talking about civilians. Rex May 2016 #31

Evidently not according to numbers, and you are ignoring my point. braddy May 2016 #34

You are ignoring the point of the OP, where does it talk about hunting rifles? Rex May 2016 #35

I disagreed with the article, didn't you read it's description of the rifles? braddy May 2016 #36

No, you're doing what gun enthusiasts invariably do whenever this topic comes up: Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #45

It isn't nitpicking... beevul May 2016 #47

It isn't nitpicking to challenge a corrupt media creating a deliberate lie about a rifle. braddy May 2016 #75

if you look at the ammo manufacturers recommendations Angel Martin May 2016 #17

but it's great for "wounding" Locrian May 2016 #73

Then why doesn't the media describe it as a weak rifle that leaves people alive? Rather than braddy May 2016 #76

probably because Locrian May 2016 #79

It's not exactly a "weak" rifle JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #107

The point is that the media is devoting decades to an Orwellian campaign to turn it into a uinque braddy May 2016 #108

The AR-15 wasn't designed to kill so much as to infict horrible wounds. MohRokTah May 2016 #20

I believe that is a persistent myth... Marengo May 2016 #72

pretty good info here Locrian May 2016 #74

Interesting. The author doesn't specify which 5.56 round he is referring to... Marengo May 2016 #80

It's one of the most popular hunting rifles in production. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #18

It is a favorite sporting rifle and varmint rifle, I own one myself and used a real assault rifle in braddy May 2016 #19

What's that bring the ar15 death count to this year? linuxman May 2016 #6

I'll pass. Heeeeers Johnny May 2016 #7

Like the Founding Fathers intended? SCantiGOP May 2016 #37

Yes, they were called privateers Heeeeers Johnny May 2016 #39

You refuted your own argument SCantiGOP May 2016 #40

It was the war making which was authorized, not the ownership of cannons. beevul May 2016 #43

They *were* privately-owned warships; the letter of marque didn't give permission petronius May 2016 #46

Aren't you the one who stated the 2nd only allows possession of hunting rifles... Marengo May 2016 #64

+1000, eom. Kang Colby May 2016 #52

Guns Discussion on again? OK, rifles account for -3% of all gun homicides... Eleanors38 May 2016 #8

Thanks anyway, I'll keep my ARs ileus May 2016 #10

How adorable. nt Logical May 2016 #83

Spoken like theres something wrong about keeping ones own AR. beevul May 2016 #86

Because we know police are unbiased when it comes to civil rights. nt hack89 May 2016 #11

Texas, gun humping paradise Skittles May 2016 #12

Chicago is only a city, and they have had 42 shootings since Friday. braddy May 2016 #21

oh lookie here! A repuke meme! Skittles May 2016 #22

Actually it is this weekend's news for Chicago, and the weekend isn't over yet. braddy May 2016 #23

As you can see... beevul May 2016 #48

and all by licensed conceal carriers and NRA members. ileus May 2016 #54

AR15's kill almost nobody TrappedInUtah May 2016 #14

Yeah, but they are the guns that get yahoo's all excited. If we restricted them, it would Hoyt May 2016 #26

How do you figure, Hoyt? Kang Colby May 2016 #53

Since most AR lovers are not hunters and are likely intimidaters, white wing racists, etc. Hoyt May 2016 #60

Every segment of society has its issues...how many "white wing racist" AR owners were involved with Kang Colby May 2016 #63

Ah, Chicago. A favorite meme of NRA. Vast majority of shootings are in limited areas. Don't go there Hoyt May 2016 #65

That's not accurate, you ignored most of my post..which is your call. Kang Colby May 2016 #69

Am I a right wing racist? Duckhunter935 May 2016 #68

I am glad I have an AR-10 now Duckhunter935 May 2016 #55

I'm glad your new lethal weapon excites you. Hoyt May 2016 #61

It does not excite me Duckhunter935 May 2016 #62

Sure it does. Let's be honest. Hoyt May 2016 #66

Please do not tell me how I feel Duckhunter935 May 2016 #67

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It is real simple, 30 06 round are meant to kill large game. .223 and 5.56 rounds are meant to kill Rex May 2016 #25

The 30-06 was designed sarisataka May 2016 #28

Again we are talking about killing people, not large game. Rex May 2016 #32

Do you know of any gun sarisataka May 2016 #41

I just built an AR-10 Duckhunter935 May 2016 #57

.223 is a varmint round. It came from the commercial .222 Remington. The 5.56 is the NATO version Waldorf May 2016 #29

And what about civilians walking down the street, you think it might be more then just an irritant? Rex May 2016 #33

If it is so good at killing American civilians than why is it hardly used to achieve that? Waldorf May 2016 #42

Can't believe I am posting in a gun thread! GulfCoast66 May 2016 #38

War crimes. Straw Man May 2016 #44

Well one way is to ban assault rifles and weapons. Rex May 2016 #91

Actually, the 5.56/.223 is used on varmints and feral hogs daily. Very, very few human victims. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #110

.30-06 served for fifty years in the military. Kang Colby May 2016 #50

...and the .308 was also designed as a NATO military round. Very popular on deer. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #111

That would be incorrect Duckhunter935 May 2016 #56

So they use 30 06 right now? Of course not. Rex May 2016 #90

I guess 20 years of military service Duckhunter935 May 2016 #92

The point of combat is to create casualties, not necessarily deaths. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #104

Everything about an AR is esthetics. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #30

Yeah, but gun yahoos are attracted to those "esthetics." Makes them feel something special. Hoyt May 2016 #78

Even if theres a grain of truth to your characterization... beevul May 2016 #82

I think gun marketers know their targets' motives, maybe better than gunners. Hoyt May 2016 #84

What you think... beevul May 2016 #85

Still keeping a diary of my posts. LMAO. Is your reference to "compound" about racist Randy Weaver? Hoyt May 2016 #88

A 'diary'? beevul May 2016 #89

I like how it is a modular weapon Duckhunter935 May 2016 #93

Yeah, ain't in nice, you can play urban warfare and train to shoot people at long distances or at Hoyt May 2016 #95

I keep them in my safe Duckhunter935 May 2016 #97

Lots of people keep their porn in safes. If training to kill is calming, seek help or use a BB gun. Hoyt May 2016 #99

I guess Olympic shooters are also training to kill, lol Duckhunter935 May 2016 #101

What if legislation required them to be painted pink? lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #103

Not just no, Hell No. beevul May 2016 #49

I think not on this one Duckhunter935 May 2016 #58

This shooting using an AR-15 had fewer dead and injured than a typical handgun/shotgun shooting NickB79 May 2016 #59

It's counterproductive Matrosov May 2016 #70

Just put a 100 dollar tax going forward on any magazine holding more than 10 rounds. hollowdweller May 2016 #71

+1. Hoyt May 2016 #77

Of course you can just 3D print them Duckhunter935 May 2016 #81

That would be a sticky first amendment issue. beevul May 2016 #87

What makes the AR-15 special that it needs more restrictions than other rifles? ManiacJoe May 2016 #94

Nothing. n/t Kang Colby May 2016 #96

Nothing at all Duckhunter935 May 2016 #98

It's so dawn scaaawy. linuxman May 2016 #100

Anti-gunners like it less than other rifles. beevul May 2016 #102

The color and lack of wood, it would seem. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #105

Well, obviously we gunnies know the right answer.... ManiacJoe May 2016 #106

It serves as a flag of the "enemy" in a culture war? Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #112