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In reply to the discussion: In Gorilla's Death, Critics Blame Mother, Cincinnati Zoo [View all]Orrex
(67,106 posts)64. But consider:
Nobody can speak for the form of life in a cage that doesn't speak our language.
Let us first be clear that we're discussing a non-human animal that does not have the same legal rights as a human being, lest someone try to conflate "non-English-speaking-gorilla" with "non-English-speaking-human."
In this case, the option ended up being dead while in a cage.
That's true, but it's not central.
The zoo created an environment that the gorilla would think as natural, but it wasn't the actual natural environment of a gorilla.
Also true, and also not central.
Then when it did something defined as wrong, against the rules that it had no say in, it was taken out.
Also true, but not greatly significant here. If I do something wrong against federal laws in which I've had no say, I will be punished in accordance with those laws. Also, if I present an immediate and credible threat of lethal harm to a child, I can certainly expect to be taken out, even if I've had no say in any laws to that effect.
They gorilla's keepers acted to protect the human child because, according to their experienced and professional judgment, no other equally viable and equally effective option was available. The fact that this took place in a zoo is unfortunate, but it doesn't change the fact that the keepers had to act quickly and decisively and without the benefit of several days' hindsight nor DU's incomparable wisdom on matters of inter-species ethics.
If I'd threatened the gorilla's offspring in the wild, there's a good chance that the gorilla would have ripped me into Rhesus pieces. Similarly, if a gorilla in the wild were threatening a human child, the gorilla would have been shot in that case as well.
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Because of its size - 450 lbs- the gorilla could have easily harmed the child, likely ca 40 lbs,
No Vested Interest
May 2016
#4
I saw part of the film and the gorilla did not look like there was any intent of direct
RKP5637
May 2016
#76
when you're at the zoo and your child tells you he intends to go into the pool
magical thyme
May 2016
#28
Agreed blame is perhaps not the right word, however, the child should not have been
still_one
May 2016
#13
I suspect if it was your four year old down there, you would feel differently.
Warren DeMontague
May 2016
#23
MY four year old kid wouldn't have been down there because my wife doesn't like going to zoos
Feeling the Bern
May 2016
#30
Your inability to imagine situations outside of your limited experience speaks volumes
Orrex
May 2016
#43
Glad you support the murder of an animal. All animals in nature are equal, but some are more
Feeling the Bern
May 2016
#29
Careful--someone might mistake your over-the-top hyperbole for an actual argument
Orrex
May 2016
#61
Thanks. I still have a scar from having a hole punched in my hand by a "tame" mountain lion.
nolabear
May 2016
#56
There's no way the kid should have been able to get into the moat in the first place.
Bad Dog
May 2016
#7
The video of the gorilla violently dragging the boy by the ankle showed the zoo had no choice.
SunSeeker
May 2016
#9
Well, okay then, it’s a preference expressed (disguised?) in a hypothetical format. . .
Stargleamer
May 2016
#87
Not everything can be made idiot-proof, but surely a gorilla cage can be made child-proof. (nt)
stone space
May 2016
#21
Blaming the mother is absurd, unless she boosted the child over the fence on her shoulders.
stone space
May 2016
#22
Not closely monitoring a four year old who you have brought to a place of danger the child can't
Bluenorthwest
May 2016
#35
I remember back when i was a wayward young man and was experimenting with the evil weed
Warren DeMontague
May 2016
#93