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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
38. "but its not to difficult to be better than humans"
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:23 PM
May 2016

Actually, it is very difficult to be better than competent human drivers.

At least 20 times a second, self driving cars need to turn gyroscopic G force data, hundreds of thousands of LiDAR dots and millions of pixels of visual data into a complete 3-D understanding of the world. The car has to know: Is that a shadow, a pothole, a pavement patch or discoloration, a piece of debris that can safely be run over, or avoided at all costs? Then they must calculate how the vehicle's current trajectory and control settings (steering, braking, and acceleration) will affect it for the next several seconds of travel. But that alone is not enough. They must constantly recalculate optimum, safe, and emergency paths, and decide what circumstances they must select that path.

And considering that they will have to share the roads for decades with conventional vehicles, they will need to start doing all this in a way that does not confuse human drivers and make the roads even less safe.

http://www.umich.edu/~umtriswt/PDF/UMTRI-2015-34.pdf

As for widespread adoption, they will have to prove themselves to be A LOT better than humans before people accept SDC technology for themselves.

Motorists' Preferences for Different Levels of Vehicle Automation

https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/114386/103217.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

Brandon Schoettle and Michael Sivak

University of Michigan
Transportation Research Institute
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-2150



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Preferred level of vehicle automation

When respondents were asked about which level of vehicle automation they
preferred (see the appendix for the definitions of each level of automation that were provided to respondents), the most frequent preference was for no self-driving (43.8%), followed by partially self-driving (40.6%), with completely self-driving being the least preferred (15.6%). Figure 1 summarizes the results for all respondents, while Table 2 presents a complete summary of responses by gender and age.

Females most frequently preferred no self-driving (47.6%), while males preferred partially self-driving (41.2%).

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Concern about riding in self-driving vehicles

In two different questions, respondents were asked how concerned they would be about riding in a completely self-driving vehicle (Q2) and a partially self-driving vehicle (Q5). The respondents were more concerned about riding in a completely self-driving vehicle than in a partially self-driving vehicle. For example 35.6% were very concerned about riding in a completely self-driving vehicle (and 68.3% were very or moderately concerned), as opposed to 14.1% for a partially self-driving vehicle (with 48.8% being very or moderately concerned). Conversely, 10.6% were not at all concerned with riding in a completely self-driving vehicle, as opposed to 16.2% for a partially self-driving vehicle. Figure 2 summarizes the results for all respondents, while Tables 3 and 4 present complete summaries of responses by gender and age.

Females expressed greater concern than males for riding in completely self-driving vehicles (very concerned: 40.1% versus 30.7%), but the difference was smaller for partially self-driving vehicles (very concerned: 15.7% versus 12.2%).

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I wonder if the ones with Vermont license plates will CentralMass May 2016 #1
I know there will be a lot of learning curves. But still so exciting! Imagine older people..... Logical May 2016 #2
I can see the possibilities. CentralMass May 2016 #3
This would make my life such a pleasure. Mojorabbit May 2016 #16
Many feel the same. And we will all be there some day. nt Logical May 2016 #18
Or if the ones with Massachusetts plates will know that struggle4progress May 2016 #5
:-) The Masshole driving algorithm. CentralMass May 2016 #8
This is exciting. And it occurs to me: Why can Volvo go all the way with existing tech, but... ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #4
Tesla's Autopilot Beta is pretty sophisticated and already available Zorro May 2016 #25
Great now I'll be able to send my robot to do my shopping Skink May 2016 #6
I wish I had a robot. nt Logical May 2016 #7
A pipe dream Heeeeers Johnny May 2016 #9
100% agree with every single point. WinkyDink May 2016 #10
And you are 100% wrong. Research technology advancements. People always complain. nt Logical May 2016 #12
Yes they do. I can't see anything but positive from this yeoman6987 May 2016 #30
And bad drivers too! nt Logical May 2016 #31
True! Lol. yeoman6987 May 2016 #32
You are the ones saying the automobile would never replace a horse and buggy..... Logical May 2016 #11
Not even close. Heeeeers Johnny May 2016 #13
Jets can and do land themselves. But bookmarked your post. Should be interesting. nt Logical May 2016 #14
Apples and oranges. Heeeeers Johnny May 2016 #20
Sure it's (italics) possible (/italics), but is it feasible? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #15
It will save 20,000 people a year in the US alone. The embedded stuff is years ago..... Logical May 2016 #17
You don't see infrastructure as a necessary component? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #19
No, I really do not at this point. Google has said very accurate road maps are required...... Logical May 2016 #21
From Windows XP to Windows 10. Wonderful change! LOL cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #22
I see your point and I know people will still want to drive...... Logical May 2016 #23
Were you rooting for H.A.L.? WinkyDink May 2016 #40
And you call yourself "Logical"? Your examples both had and have human agency. WinkyDink May 2016 #39
Lol, you really want me to list all the tech used daily that makes decisions..... Logical May 2016 #43
It doesn't need to be perfect, just better than humans Travis_0004 May 2016 #33
"but its not to difficult to be better than humans" FrodosPet May 2016 #38
Seriously? Orrex May 2016 #44
Douglas Adams has it right on people accepting new technologies TampaAnimusVortex May 2016 #45
No thanks. zappaman May 2016 #24
No thanks. I like my horse and buggy. I understand that logic. People are comfortable. nt Logical May 2016 #26
I'm waiting for my flying car. n/t zappaman May 2016 #27
You honestly think the self driving car is the same as the flying car predictions? nt Logical May 2016 #28
No, a flying car would be way better. n/t zappaman May 2016 #29
When a computer can perform voice recognition with 99.5% accuracy FrodosPet May 2016 #34
I agree, there will be a lot of initial issues. But I bet first year out it saves lives. nt Logical May 2016 #35
Yeah, but leadfooting it down the freeway is the only exercise I get these days Bucky May 2016 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2016 #36
LOL, you nailed it! Perfect! nt Logical May 2016 #37
Perfect metaphor for the democracy where only half of us vote Bucky May 2016 #41
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