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oldandhappy

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21. The Black Church has been a long time uniter for the African American people.

Tue May 31, 2016, 12:26 AM

May 2016

1. Allow people their church and religion
2. If you are not AA yourself, be quiet
3. People see your religion by how you live
4. 'Telling' people what to do with religion will turn them the opposite way

If progressives want to influence the Black Church, start after school programs, start nutrition programs in poverty areas, set up scholarships for high school graduates -- i.e. be progressive in the community. Never attack beliefs. Ask what needs to be done. Holy Toledo! This is not hard. Ask, don't tell. If you are anti religion yourself, OK. Some progressives are believers and some are not. Faith is not the standard for being progressive. Caring is the standard.

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How can progressives help steer African Americans away from religion? [View all] FrodosPet May 2016 OP

WTF??? stone space May 2016 #1

OK, and your answer is? FrodosPet May 2016 #2

Racist patriarchal idiocy. Shame on you. bettyellen May 2016 #4

Shame on me for a lot of things. FrodosPet May 2016 #9

Sounds like you have bvf May 2016 #18

Everyone on Earth has personal challenges to address. FrodosPet May 2016 #26

Yours seem pretty specific. bvf May 2016 #34

Are the views of President of China, Xi, specific on religion? Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #156

Depends. bvf May 2016 #165

this ^^^ nt arely staircase May 2016 #128

Well put. :) Hortensis May 2016 #81

my response as well. redwitch May 2016 #132

Wow RandySF May 2016 #3

Please do jump in FrodosPet May 2016 #5

There's a huge difference RandySF May 2016 #8

This is a big reason I am not an anti-religious advocate FrodosPet May 2016 #16

Your life must really suck if this is your number one concern. dilby May 2016 #6

It's not #1, but it is top 5 FrodosPet May 2016 #12

Her belief is not hurting anyone. dilby May 2016 #14

That's why this was a question, not a statement FrodosPet May 2016 #20

+1000. Some people who'd be outraged Hortensis May 2016 #82

Beliefs are hurting others Albertoo May 2016 #44

Sorry, faith isn't free at all. cleanhippie May 2016 #137

Yeah shenmue May 2016 #59

What happened in Cincinnati? brush May 2016 #7

Yes, I am mystified, too. potone May 2016 #11

A small child got into the gorilla exhibit at the Cincinnati zoo. FrodosPet May 2016 #13

Looks like a white child in the video with the murdered gorrilla. What does that . . . brush May 2016 #19

Nope. The child and mother are African American FrodosPet May 2016 #24

Good luck with that then. I would venture to say there are similar percentages . . . brush May 2016 #36

Most of the negative. deathrind May 2016 #155

The zoo keeps had to make a guick decision. Had the kid been killed or riversedge May 2016 #127

Both threads are an example of what happens Blue_Tires May 2016 #126

That settles it then. FrodosPet May 2016 #133

I'm just saying that with so few of us left here, Blue_Tires May 2016 #146

Dr. Johnny Fever said "booger" on air Bucky May 2016 #106

No, I have a LOT of sympathy for Ms Gregg FrodosPet May 2016 #116

To quote a line from "in the heat of the night" StarTrombone May 2016 #10

Can't you just go to a black church and demand that they do what you say? Dreamer Tatum May 2016 #15

BINGO! FrodosPet May 2016 #17

get off your high horse. nt. hopemountain May 2016 #69

Impossible. A quart of superglue bvf May 2016 #151

The Black Church has been a long time uniter for the African American people. oldandhappy May 2016 #21

Thank you FrodosPet May 2016 #25

Maybe it's just me but I've never been the type of person to try and convert people liberal_at_heart May 2016 #22

I don't know. How can we convince churchgoers like these to become atheists? Nye Bevan May 2016 #23

Michelle looks terrific in this picture. potone May 2016 #28

Obama is the first President.. TipTok May 2016 #122

Many people are born religious. It is in their genes. The problem is religion that has applegrove May 2016 #27

I will NEVER claim to have "THE ANSWER" on anything like that. FrodosPet May 2016 #30

Personally I think religions that command people to murder as many infidels as possible Nye Bevan May 2016 #31

Big Bang is the best theory science has. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #64

Big Bang does not explain how that tiny piece of dust came to exist. Or how that void around it came applegrove May 2016 #66

Read some real scientists. The theory holds up. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #75

But why was there a universe to begin with. Who or what put that void there? Fla Dem May 2016 #121

You trip yourself up with the 'why' bit... TipTok May 2016 #124

Absolutely wrong. No-one is "born religious". It is not "in their genes". mr blur May 2016 #80

Science says that some people have a genome that is attracted to religion. applegrove May 2016 #166

You sure you are not a troll and will be held up to religious a a as a false flag progressive applegrove May 2016 #29

Yes, I am sure of that FrodosPet May 2016 #35

WTF ????? JI7 May 2016 #32

"What a shock, Gorilla Killa Mom is a Jay-sus freak" FrodosPet May 2016 #39

So what? What is wrong with you to post this? yardwork May 2016 #87

Too many of us (sadly, including myself) look at being a Democrat (progressive, liberal)... FrodosPet May 2016 #102

So you did the same thing???!!!! yardwork May 2016 #136

WHOA NELLY!!! bravenak May 2016 #33

The horrible treatment of Ms Gregg is real FrodosPet May 2016 #37

How is this helpful? bravenak May 2016 #38

By hopefully getting some people to examine their hypocrisy FrodosPet May 2016 #40

Good luck with this! bravenak May 2016 #42

Thank you. Growing as a moral human being is a process FrodosPet May 2016 #52

This thread is about the best swan dive into an empty pool I've ever seen Scootaloo May 2016 #41

Everybody needs a hobby FrodosPet May 2016 #47

Well, everyone should play to their strengths Scootaloo May 2016 #51

Are you really that clueless about the patronizing tone of your OP? SunSeeker May 2016 #43

I do see that FrodosPet May 2016 #45

Black and white works with clothing, has little to do with people. L. Coyote May 2016 #46

What the actual fuck? (nt) Recursion May 2016 #48

I am a critic of religion romanic May 2016 #49

I fear the OP steers people away from the real issues Albertoo May 2016 #50

I'm not African American but I'm guessing they don't need you to save them. EllieBC May 2016 #53

+1000 Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #56

It is, isn't it? FrodosPet May 2016 #57

Dear Frodo's Pet, did you perhaps forget to use a sarcasm symbol? raging moderate May 2016 #54

It WAS, by and large, sarcasm FrodosPet May 2016 #113

A suggestion: Ask, how can the left work to keep religion out of politics and government. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #55

A thread like that would die a quick death FrodosPet May 2016 #60

I certainly recognize the racism when it comes to my attention. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #61

A LOT of people in this world need to learn that skill. FrodosPet May 2016 #63

Not that long ago, whites "steered" AAs to Christianity 6chars May 2016 #58

We REALLY need to quit steering anybody anywhere FrodosPet May 2016 #62

Amen! 6chars May 2016 #65

this is none of your business hopemountain May 2016 #67

thank you for saying what I couldn't find the words to say myself rbrnmw May 2016 #70

Yes, I do know that this is DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND. FrodosPet May 2016 #73

you are falling into the same behavior of proselytizing hopemountain May 2016 #76

Really?? rbrnmw May 2016 #68

Nope. Not really. FrodosPet May 2016 #71

Next time just add a sarcasm tag bravenak May 2016 #72

Why would you want to? mahina May 2016 #74

This is not open for discussion. What grounds do you have for proclaiming mikehiggins May 2016 #77

Do you not see how patronizing and disgustingly paternalistic that sounds? WillowTree May 2016 #78

+ a brazillion milestogo May 2016 #123

Yes, the OP IS patronizing and disgustingly paternalistic FrodosPet May 2016 #135

Your attitude reeks of privilege. yardwork May 2016 #138

We shouldn't even try Warpy May 2016 #79

Progressives should direct their efforts toward eradicating racism, elitism .... etherealtruth May 2016 #83

This is all I can say is.. RogueTrooper May 2016 #84

Thanks for saying it. yardwork May 2016 #88

Thank you. Quayblue May 2016 #145

As progressives we should work to ban religion...from the US. ileus May 2016 #85

As progressives, we should work to ban bans not protecting freedom of religion. moriah May 2016 #98

Probably when African Americans are treated equally to everyone else... Stellar May 2016 #86

Are you fucking kidding me? yardwork May 2016 #89

Very good question malaise May 2016 #90

Why don't we let African Americans decide for themselves? Orrex May 2016 #91

Jury, you suck. moriah May 2016 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author laundry_queen May 2016 #93

Who the hell are you to judge a woman for thanking God for her child's life? moriah May 2016 #94

-I- am not the one judging her. FrodosPet May 2016 #120

So, one step about "being better" might not be the automatic assumption that faith is always bad. moriah May 2016 #147

Patiently explain the evils of religion to people while hanging around outside Crunchy Frog May 2016 #95

I believe you are being facetious to show how wrong people were to judge this mom for gollygee May 2016 #96

Thank you for recognizing that FrodosPet May 2016 #111

I am a "New Atheist" NastyRiffraff May 2016 #164

Fighting racism with racism probably isn't the best strategy. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #97

Your post borders on being offensively patronizing. Odin2005 May 2016 #99

"borders on"?! WinkyDink May 2016 #104

So called "New Atheists" come in all sexes and colors Albertoo May 2016 #125

Is this a satirical OP about condescending white liberals? sufrommich May 2016 #100

Reading through all of the OPs comments, I think that is a fair assessment. onenote May 2016 #101

Yes, it is just that FrodosPet May 2016 #107

Do you have ANY CLUE as to how religion has aided American (and African slave) Blacks? WinkyDink May 2016 #103

I like to think that I am trying to find one FrodosPet May 2016 #108

What a fucking patronizing, racist, plantation-mentality question. Do you even listen to yourself? Bucky May 2016 #105

Well trolled Egnever May 2016 #109

Some further thoughts... RogueTrooper May 2016 #110

Lol La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #112

"Benevolent bigotry" is no joke. FrodosPet May 2016 #119

Word fail me. greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #114

A Little Disappointing ProfessorGAC May 2016 #115

Considering how much over-the-top nonsense has been posted on DU lately, can't blame them. TwilightZone May 2016 #129

That's The Disappointing Part ProfessorGAC May 2016 #154

Oh I get the point. YOU seem to miss how offensive it is. yardwork May 2016 #140

The OP Wasn't Calling Out A Minority Group! ProfessorGAC May 2016 #153

"How can progressives help steer African Americans away from " LynneSin May 2016 #163

Knowing the mother's ethnicity and religion hasn't changed my opinion at all. yardwork May 2016 #167

... betsuni May 2016 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste May 2016 #118

more trashy shit from the berniebros. stonecutter357 May 2016 #130

Did you use and online new-age bullshit generator for your post? fleabiscuit May 2016 #131

Who the fuck do you think you are to be "steering" a block of people based on race? Lee-Lee May 2016 #134

"the most racist condescending post I've ever seen here" FrodosPet May 2016 #139

The White Man's burden is a heavy one. hack89 May 2016 #141

Please read the rest of my responses FrodosPet May 2016 #142

No, you are missing the point. We get what you're trying to do. yardwork May 2016 #148

What? TrappedInUtah May 2016 #143

It is VERY racist FrodosPet May 2016 #144

This would have 100 recs in GDP. nt LexVegas May 2016 #149

I do not believe I just read that. KamaAina May 2016 #150

I wonder how we can help steer those that want to steer AA away from still_one May 2016 #152

Everyone has to come to their senses in their own time. truebrit71 May 2016 #157

One of the most clueless posts of all time on DU. OregonBlue May 2016 #158

One of the most modest proposals I've ever read on DU (nt) TacoD May 2016 #159

What a bizarre, offensive and patronizing question! The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #160

Disgusting post Demsrule86 May 2016 #161

Really? Seriously! As a Christian I'm f*cking offended LynneSin May 2016 #162

I will defend your right to be Christian, Muslim, Jew, Wiccan etc. I reported this OP to moderators Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #168

Thank you! I was tempted to report it LynneSin May 2016 #169

Fuck your white man's burden bullshit. forjusticethunders May 2016 #170

LOCKING THREAD AS SOP VIOLATION LostOne4Ever May 2016 #171