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JDPriestly

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35. Look at the history of the US from the end of slavery to the Great
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:18 PM
May 2016

Depression.

That technological revolution took a long time, and we don't even think of it as a technological revolution. But it was.

My mother rode horses and walked to her country school in the 1920s. She plowed fields with her feet holding the top of the plow in her hands. The industrial revolution had begun long before she was born, and it continued during her lifetime.

I remember the old hand wringer washers. We hung ALL of our laundry out to dry. It smelled sweet and the cotton was stiff when you brought it in to iron it. Ironing was a big job.

Industry has been moving toward automation for a long, long time.

It is going to happen. I have heard about factories in China being closed and robot factories in Europe and the US being opened in their place. That is happening. It has been announced.

The FDR era brought changes that eased the already occurring movement of masses of people from farming into industrial work and living in cities. People who remain in rural America tend to be politically conservative because they did not join that movement, that physical movement from farm to city, from agricultural work to industrial work. Before Social Security, seniors lived with their children and lived from the production and the income from their farms (or businesses). Social Security and industry pensions made it possible for seniors to survive without the farm income and production. It was a necessary social program to meet the needs of the time.

Now we are facing another huge economic revolution, moving into an era in which technology will result in big social changes. Bernie's ideas are about how we can survive as a society while dealing with a social transformation which is occurring, which we cannot stop, and which requires us to change. Corporations can produce a lot of goods with very little human labor. That trend will become commonplace. Labor costs that are incorporated into the price of goods will diminish. What will happen to the concept of "earning your living"?

That is the question we have to answer. How do we manage a service economy? How do people get the means to pay for what they need in an economy in which work is scarce?

We will need a very different approach to economics.

This is especially true because we will face enormous environmental challenges and if our human population continues to grow as it is, one of them will be quite simply overcrowding in habitable areas.

So we need new thinking to deal with our new economic and social reality.

FDR responded wisely to the changes he saw in his time. We need Bernie because he is the one politician now who is viscerally aware that this is a time of change and, yes, revolution.

Revolution does not come about because people decide to revolt (in my opinion). Revolution comes about because the economic and social reality demands change. Revolution is peaceful when the majority and the leadership realize that the status quo cannot work in the future. Revolution is violent when the majority of the people and the leaders balk, blind themselves and refuse to acknowledge the changing reality.

Political and social revolution is not a matter of choice. It is a necessary response to changes in our economy and society.

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Certainly. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author zentrum Jun 2016 #51
ugh. too many words. please put it in outline form and add hyperlinks for keywords? thanks! unblock May 2016 #2
Agree. Ugh. Please reduce to a single-panel cartoon? Thanks! cheapdate May 2016 #29
Heh heh, the moron's mating call. sofa king Jun 2016 #60
Chiquitita, is this your work? Greybnk48 May 2016 #3
Thanks, yes Chiquitita May 2016 #4
Winning Pub Trivia Night. whatthehey May 2016 #5
It's great for trivia. A nice bonus. Chiquitita May 2016 #7
Winning Pub Trivia Night flamin lib May 2016 #44
Sure - but again these are the reflexive priorities I mentioned above whatthehey Jun 2016 #50
Without them, there is precious little "reach" to exceed annabanana May 2016 #6
Once almost all tech work has been automated gollygee May 2016 #8
that's what an AI person said to me recently... Chiquitita May 2016 #9
I'm not gollygee May 2016 #10
I agree with you Chiquitita May 2016 #11
Look at the history of the US from the end of slavery to the Great JDPriestly May 2016 #35
This is what we need to be thinking about Chiquitita May 2016 #36
When we resist necessary change, we do violence to ourselves and sometimes to others. JDPriestly May 2016 #40
Be careful what you wish for a Utopia seldom turns out like jwirr May 2016 #43
"Riders of the Purple Wage." malthaussen Jun 2016 #55
I should dig up my copy of Dangerous Visions exboyfil Jun 2016 #56
Humanities were important until they committed suicide in the 80s. AngryAmish May 2016 #12
You're preaching to the choir, Chiquitita. TexasProgresive May 2016 #13
I taught Humanities in IGCSE, A-Level and in university for 12 years Feeling the Bern May 2016 #14
The answer padfun May 2016 #16
"worker bees who can't analyse, think critically or create."... madinmaryland Jun 2016 #69
Beautiful, amazing post! JDPriestly May 2016 #15
Timely essay ewagner May 2016 #17
I worked in sales to engineers. They all said their technical education prepared them to build flamin lib May 2016 #18
I worked over 20 years Sophiegirl May 2016 #25
Case in point: Karl Rove. No college so he can only repeat the same old tricks some one else showed McCamy Taylor May 2016 #19
My liberal arts education helped me to undertand the mythology behind religion passiveporcupine May 2016 #20
Unfortunately for your world-view, physicists have now Joe Chi Minh May 2016 #28
My English degree enables me to speak eloquently about my inadequate salary. Orrex May 2016 #21
I'm not convinced that our majors/degrees are at fault for salary disappointment Chiquitita May 2016 #22
"Can earn." That's a good one. Orrex May 2016 #27
I majored in comparative literature and Spanish Chiquitita May 2016 #32
I would certainly have benefited from a more dedicated study of a second language Orrex May 2016 #33
English majors have declined a lot over the last 10 years in response to what you are experiencing Chiquitita May 2016 #34
That's a smart strategy Orrex May 2016 #37
yes, nice to talk with you. Chiquitita May 2016 #39
Oddly, when we wanted to kill of the people who lived here so we could steal their homes and jtuck004 May 2016 #23
excellent insight Chiquitita May 2016 #38
The arts and humanities make us human awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #24
This is a great narrative. Thanks, Chiquitita SpankMe May 2016 #26
Two close friends are senior software engineers at a prominent company. REP May 2016 #30
I can not understand for the life of me how anyone pangaia May 2016 #31
The number one major at Yale is history. KamaAina May 2016 #41
My wife and I have science degrees. Our children have humanities degrees. hunter May 2016 #42
Humanities flamin lib May 2016 #45
k and r -- from a phil and humanities major :) nashville_brook May 2016 #46
k and r, with thanks. niyad May 2016 #47
it certainly helps at "geeks who drink" nights!! niyad May 2016 #48
Humanities are great if students take personal responsibility for that choice of major in college. MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #49
"interests" like Language, Religion, Music, Art, Philosophy, Literature, and History? tenderfoot Jun 2016 #59
So you're proposing...what? MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #62
Do you think your English teacher studied law? tenderfoot Jun 2016 #67
And you sound like the typical "everyone else should pay for my mistakes" kind of person. MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #70
Free University like the rest of the CIVILIZED world. tenderfoot Jun 2016 #72
I think the institutions that grant degrees Chiquitita Jun 2016 #64
I 100% agree with you on the schools; they have responsiblity here too. MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #65
I see your point Chiquitita Jun 2016 #66
The Humanities zentrum Jun 2016 #52
It does seem weird that in the thousands upon thousands of years My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #53
How many on a percentage basis had time exboyfil Jun 2016 #57
Those who were able to attain scholarship My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #58
Several in this thread tenderfoot Jun 2016 #68
That education was mostly reserved for the gentry. X_Digger Jun 2016 #71
She is, however, easily controllable. malthaussen Jun 2016 #54
Humanities is good for long thoughtful essays. What good is culture? or literacy? Bucky Jun 2016 #61
they are forms of capital Chiquitita Jun 2016 #63
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