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avebury

(11,200 posts)
12. The problem with this country these days
Tue May 31, 2016, 05:32 PM
May 2016

is that people are not willing to take responsibility for their actions (or lack there of ) and want to blame someone else. The mother showed a gross lack of judgement thinking that she can managed 4 young children in a public area that is chock full of distractions. She should have had at a minimum one more adult with her. Would it have been the zoo's fault if all the children went in separate directions? What would the mother do if they had all taken off in different directions? Adults have a duty to act responsibly when they have children in their care. There is no way that you can give the mother a pass because her lack of judgement created a situation where the little boy could dart off and do exactly what he told her he was going to do. She had ample notice of his intent and she did absolutley nothing to stop him. Telling the boy no doesn't count. You cannot expect a 4 year old to have impulse control. That is why you have adults in charge of children. Had the child never said a peep about his desire to get into the gorilla exhibit I probably would be willing to cut her some slack. But the fact is that she did have notice.

Due to the contributory negligence on the part of the mother I would never vote in favor of the family if they were to sue the zoo. The zoo had a spotless 38 year record where the Gorilla exhibit is concerned.

"Normally a zoo letting a 3 year old in with Gorillas, would be sued." Where was it ever said that the zoo allowed the 4 year old in with the gorillas? Where was it ever said that the zoo was notified that the 4 year old wanted to go in with the gorillas? With a 38 year spotless record what would make the zoo think that a carless mother would create a situation where a 4 year old could get close enough to even enter the gorilla enclosure?

The mother was given several notices of the boy's intent, the zoo was not. The zoo never gave the child permission to play with the gorillas. In fact what the child did could be deemed tresspassing at a minimum or even harrassing an endangered animal (which in some places is often in and of itself a crime). While you couldn't charge a minor child, parents are legally liable for the actions of their children.

I don't find any fault with the zoo. The did the best they could with a bad situation.

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The Cincinnati PD should read DU. LanternWaste May 2016 #1
I've noticed. moriah May 2016 #2
Otherwise could have been a tragedy? LisaL May 2016 #5
The tragedy is caging higher primates at all, there. moriah Jun 2016 #42
Instead of four of her own kids it could have easily been a group avebury May 2016 #6
Excellent points, clearly stated REP May 2016 #8
These are all reasons, to me, kiva May 2016 #15
Ever thought that was because she had already been getting hatemail? Nt moriah Jun 2016 #45
Your basing that on melman Jun 2016 #47
The fact that she acknowledged people were blaming her already in the original FB posting. moriah Jun 2016 #49
I could be wrong on the timeline, kiva Jun 2016 #50
My last word on this, because this subject is making me too.angry, having known... moriah Jun 2016 #52
Okay, then when you want to go pass laws about how many children women can have in public.... moriah Jun 2016 #43
Well, of course she's being liberalhistorian May 2016 #41
I said earlier that four kids is hardly clowncar status. Nt moriah Jun 2016 #44
Good Sherman A1 May 2016 #3
Yep... trumad May 2016 #4
The Gorilla World Exhibit had been in place for 38 years avebury May 2016 #7
So should they fix the barrier so a 4 year old can't climb through it? trumad May 2016 #9
Yes for one simple reason - avebury May 2016 #16
You said yes.. trumad May 2016 #33
Police investigationis focusing on parents avebury May 2016 #38
Simple question, yes or no mythology May 2016 #34
Does anybody have an actual photo of the barrier and where the child got in? Blue_Tires May 2016 #11
They are not investigating the zoo, which they have made crystal clear. LisaL May 2016 #22
Normally a zoo letting a 3 year old in with Gorillas, would be sued, they would not blame the 3 year braddy May 2016 #10
The problem with this country these days avebury May 2016 #12
Normally a zoo letting a 3 year old get inside the Gorilla exhibit would be sued by the parents braddy May 2016 #13
The problem with your theory is that the zoo did not let the avebury May 2016 #17
LOL, sure, the 3 year old was trespassing into the zoo's Gorilla display, I don't think the jury braddy May 2016 #18
You cannot in any way shape or form say that the zoo allowed avebury May 2016 #19
A mother turns her head for a second and a 3 year old is in with the gorillas?, there will be braddy May 2016 #20
If the kid keeps telling you that he wants to go play with the gorillas avebury May 2016 #25
LOL, you sure have it all wrapped up, why do you keep calling him a 4 year old? braddy May 2016 #27
I thought they corrected his age to 4. If it is avebury May 2016 #30
I think you meant "now," rather than "not." nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #53
What does being black have to do with it? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #21
You say DU has declared her race as being an issue, I didn't know that. braddy May 2016 #23
There was zero discussion of the family's race until today ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #24
Actually it was brought up since at least Sunday when there was a thread on it, and how braddy May 2016 #26
Funny, because there were posts yesterday saying ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #28
Why are you telling me all this, I'm not interested. braddy May 2016 #29
Because you just acted like everyone knew they were black.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #31
I have no idea what you know or don't know, you are the one who posted to me. braddy May 2016 #32
Thank you. Said much more eloquently than I. Coventina May 2016 #14
Millions of people have visited the zoo and they haven't had an issue in 38 years mythology May 2016 #35
Something may have changed over the years, until we learn more we don't know, but we do braddy May 2016 #36
The barrier shouldn't require parents to be responsible. kwassa May 2016 #37
should every barrier be child-proof? adult-proof? maxsolomon Jun 2016 #58
Every barrier should be child-proof. Adults should be on their own ... kwassa Jun 2016 #61
So how high should it be then? 36" is obviously inadequate. maxsolomon Jun 2016 #62
Bingo. roamer65 Jun 2016 #59
Right? me b zola May 2016 #39
Wasn't this the same weekend that more than 700 people drowned from a single boat? braddy May 2016 #40
I agree. And I read that the accreditation board will be inspecting the zoo pnwmom Jun 2016 #46
Thank you librarylu Jun 2016 #51
Thank you for your reasonable post. Jim Beard Jun 2016 #55
No jury... sendero Jun 2016 #48
I agree Jim Beard Jun 2016 #56
I'm curious about why they'd investigate someone who wan't there. Nt gollygee Jun 2016 #54
Very good point Jim Beard Jun 2016 #57
3 yr olds are short little things and he prob could not see over the railing and bushes etc dembotoz Jun 2016 #60
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