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Odin2005

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117. One of the things that drove me away from "New Atheism"...

Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:06 AM

Jun 2016

...was the nastiness and meanness of so many "New Atheists". The breaking point for me was the deluge of hate Rebecca Watson, who runs the Skepchick blog, got when she complained of being sexually harassed on an elevator at an Atheism conference, and the haters included people like Richard Dawkins.

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Stop Mommy Shaming over the Gorilla Incident [View all] pnwmom May 2016 OP

Thank you Uponthegears May 2016 #1

The arrogance of the shamers brer cat May 2016 #2

I know...go figure. People getting upset over easily distracted and careless parents. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #140

Stop shaming DUers that have a different opinion then you do. Rex May 2016 #3

Stop projecting. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #4

Stop deflecting. nt Rex May 2016 #7

Isn't that part of DU? Self righteous indignation Feeling the Bern May 2016 #42

Someone told me I had to support the mother because I'm a female....... DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #141

Absolutely. Wrong is wrong and that woman was wrong. Spin it anyway you like. Peregrine Took May 2016 #57

+1 840high May 2016 #69

Seems like she's simply stating an opinion that's different from yours. nilram Jun 2016 #106

If you don't think the gorilla deserved to die Democat Jun 2016 #127

Bullshit. You have kids in a potentially dangerous situation, you be especially careful. HERVEPA May 2016 #5

In Binary World you only have on and off. Rex May 2016 #8

Goody for you that you never once took your eyes off your children pnwmom May 2016 #19

Two kids, and damn right I didn't in such a situation. Same with grandchildren. HERVEPA May 2016 #20

You never had that particular thing happen. But you probably had pnwmom May 2016 #23

Nope. No leashes. Just attentive to my kids. Is that difficult to understand? HERVEPA May 2016 #52

You had two children. The laws of physics wouldn't allow you to be focusing pnwmom May 2016 #56

In this situation at a zoo, I sure would be 100% focused. HERVEPA May 2016 #60

I'm saying that you could unknowingly have had children who were in danger pnwmom May 2016 #74

Disagree, and I'm done with this. HERVEPA May 2016 #95

HA! That's so true laundry_queen May 2016 #98

Thanks for the voice of realism here. pnwmom May 2016 #99

I was just at a zoo with my daughter Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #110

I think you are full of crap MattBaggins Jun 2016 #107

I take my kids to the zoo all the time. Never occurred to me to be on super duper prayin4rain May 2016 #35

I imagine that none of your chlldren (or most children for the fact of the matter) avebury May 2016 #81

My three year old wanted to pet the jaguars or leopards (i don't remember which) prayin4rain May 2016 #83

being judgmental is for conservatives treestar Jun 2016 #114

That is so wrong it's laughable. Do you judge Trump or Bush? Democat Jun 2016 #129

Still misses the point that it can happen to any of us treestar Jun 2016 #132

i'm angry with the screaming spectators maxsolomon May 2016 #6

There's a quote somewhere about how individual people are capable of displaying intelligence Warren DeMontague May 2016 #15

THIS! nt tblue37 May 2016 #28

That's a very good point bluestateguy May 2016 #66

Sometimes shame is deserved. Throd May 2016 #9

Hell Yes! HERVEPA May 2016 #10

Exactly. n/t Coventina May 2016 #12

Careful, using reason can lead down a long and pointless road. Rex May 2016 #17

+1000 Logical May 2016 #18

+1000 jack_krass May 2016 #84

Yep. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #126

Clearly you're just racist and you hate all mothers Democat Jun 2016 #130

Have you really seen people Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #137

That was my take. We don't know what happened and the impulse to blame is misguided. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #11

I can be glad the little boy is okay... NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #128

Shaming Mothers on the interenet Texasgal May 2016 #13

No doubt gollygee May 2016 #16

Bullshit. I would have the exact same reaction for a father. HERVEPA May 2016 #21

Except the father is not mentioned Texasgal May 2016 #24

Why should he be when he wasn't there? Coventina May 2016 #25

He shoudn't. Texasgal May 2016 #27

Why wasn't he there? Dorian Gray May 2016 #34

Why does that matter? Texasgal May 2016 #36

It's sarcasm Dorian Gray May 2016 #40

Some people just can't get sarcasm. Was clear to me. HERVEPA May 2016 #47

I'm just stupid. Texasgal May 2016 #51

You aren't stupid Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #111

It happens Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #109

Sorry.. On edge here. Texasgal May 2016 #48

No worries... Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #108

How about we talk about the issues facing the nation. iandhr May 2016 #14

can;t think of two things in the same day? Sorry about that. HERVEPA May 2016 #22

I was more commenting on the fact that it is wall to wall on all the networks. iandhr May 2016 #61

I can think of more 840high May 2016 #70

Yeah, I always lose track of my kids tabasco May 2016 #26

It's the gorilla's fault for being around kids. OnyxCollie May 2016 #29

I think whoever approved a 3 foot tall railing and some bushes as the barrier pnwmom May 2016 #30

Millions of people have visited the zoo mythology Jun 2016 #120

its a lose lose situation Mary Mac May 2016 #31

People love a good witch hunt. LS_Editor May 2016 #32

Stories like this remind me that some really nasty people post on this board. prayin4rain May 2016 #33

Unfortunatly, no. Texasgal May 2016 #37

I'm surprised at the level of shaming considering EllieBC May 2016 #38

What a ludicrous post. Implying that animal folks don't care about children. Just dumb. HERVEPA May 2016 #50

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #80

I disagree lancer78 May 2016 #39

The diagram shows there is only a three foot railing and a four foot wide pnwmom May 2016 #44

wrong killbotfactory May 2016 #46

As I bought a harness lancer78 May 2016 #53

But she believed in Jay-sus GulfCoast66 May 2016 #41

Just type ":sarcasm:" Odin2005 May 2016 #45

Thanks GulfCoast66 May 2016 #49

The people bashing her for being religious are pretty pathetic, too. Odin2005 May 2016 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles May 2016 #65

That's happening? Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #112

One of the things that drove me away from "New Atheism"... Odin2005 Jun 2016 #117

Anyone can make mistakes.... Adrahil May 2016 #54

Are you aware that there was only a 3 foot tall railing and a four foot wide pnwmom May 2016 #58

I am. MILLIONS of people have visited and managed not to get in there. Adrahil May 2016 #63

We won't know till the inspection team comes and determines if the enclosure pnwmom May 2016 #73

Leave Mommy Alone!! lancer78 May 2016 #55

Classic! tabasco Jun 2016 #131

I'm sorry MFM008 May 2016 #59

That child complain jane May 2016 #62

THIS!!!! THIS!!! THIS!!!! ScreamingMeemie May 2016 #64

Thank You, Thank you, Thank you Jim Beard May 2016 #87

.+1 840high May 2016 #72

That is exactly what happened. NT avebury May 2016 #78

The mother's inattentiveness caused the child to fall into enclosure... dubyadiprecession May 2016 #67

Or the zoo enclosure's poor design made that too easy. We don't know pnwmom May 2016 #77

I lean against criminal charges bluestateguy May 2016 #68

When you consider that consistent failure to charge negligent gun owners avebury May 2016 #89

I seriously doubt that sending moms to jail Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #104

A friend had their two year old wander off pnwmom Jun 2016 #105

For a lot of parents there are close calls we conveniently forget when we wag fingers at others aikoaiko May 2016 #71

+1, they act like no other parent has ever taken their eyes off of any of their children ever... uponit7771 May 2016 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Jim Beard May 2016 #90

I heard a little cry from my child's bedroom once. pnwmom May 2016 #82

My daughter slipped out of the house once gollygee Jun 2016 #118

Amen to your last sentence treestar Jun 2016 #133

"some people have had children: that means you shouldn't judge screaming incompetence at it" MisterP May 2016 #75

Would you take the same stance if it was a daycare avebury May 2016 #76

I'd still say the zoo should have had an enclosure that could keep a 3 year old out. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #85

unless, she was occupied with texting rather than watching her child hopemountain May 2016 #86

Witnesses reported that she was interacting with the child -- but she had other pnwmom May 2016 #88

Thank You Jim Beard May 2016 #92

Mother/father makes no difference. Ive no doubt the same criticism would be given if the father lost jack_krass May 2016 #91

The kid didn't suddenly learn to transport himself......he slowly made his way DemMomma4Sanders May 2016 #93

Slowly? Where did you read that part? He only had to go under or over a 3 foot tall railing, pnwmom May 2016 #97

Its common sense. Its a child. If he was as fast as some people are implying DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #139

Clearly, many of us have been exposed to much faster children than you have. pnwmom Jun 2016 #142

Have you bothered to listen to the woman standing beside them? Jim Beard May 2016 #100

He wasn't the hulk, its a child. Have you ever seen a tiny child on the monkey bars. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #138

The child announced his intention. More than once. AtomicKitten May 2016 #94

And it could have been avoided with a better enclosure. Not a 3 foot high railing pnwmom May 2016 #96

that is true as well making this AtomicKitten May 2016 #102

Agreed. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #103

Yeh, and if only Gore ran a better campaign, Nader wouldn't have mattered. (sarcasm) HERVEPA Jun 2016 #119

"Mommy" shaming? How old are we? nt MadDAsHell May 2016 #101

Identified as female parental unit shaming. nt The2ndWheel Jun 2016 #113

Yes, and it's embarrassing to see how many people are gleefully treestar Jun 2016 #115

DU member ripcord summed it up correctly Orrex Jun 2016 #116

There is a difference between blink of an eye... TipTok Jun 2016 #121

It could take a child seconds to go under or over a 3 foot barrier and across pnwmom Jun 2016 #122

Maybe this baby... TipTok Jun 2016 #123

I hope she has the common decency to be ashamed of herself. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #124

According to her facebook posts, she's not Ex Lurker Jun 2016 #134

Do you also want to stop Mommy shaming Ethan Couch's mom? Democat Jun 2016 #125

Uh, no Matrosov Jun 2016 #135

Depends, did the mom choose to not get her kids vaccinated or not? snooper2 Jun 2016 #136

So the edict from mothers is no one can ever question you? RB TexLa Jun 2016 #143

Your edict is that no woman can ever be shamed enough, apparently. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #144

No woman? You said "mommy shaming." You do know not all women are "mommies." RB TexLa Jun 2016 #145

Okay. Your edict is no mommy can be shamed enough. Got it. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #146

I believe they can be questioned and held accountable. They are not a special class of citizens RB TexLa Jun 2016 #147