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ladjf

(17,320 posts)
113. If there is anything I don't need is a lecture on racial awareness.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:24 AM
Jun 2016

There is no way that you could accurately asses my attitude toward racial issues from the few comments I made regarding the Cincinnati Zoo incident.

As I told you previously, I read several accts. as I was quite interested in the case.

In my opinion, the zoo was at fault for an inadequate design and the Mother was at fault for not
watching the child closely enough. According to the accounts I read, the mother was quoted as saying that the child had more than once stated that he wanted to get into the pool where the gorillas were.
I'm a parent and if my child had stated such an intention, I most definitely taken him somewhere else.
Another thing, from the video, it never occurred to me that the child was a person of color.

I believe that you are selling a lot of white people short based on your conversations with a limited
sample of white Americans.

You have lumped me in with a group of people to which I don't belong. Presently, I care for all Americans who are being robbed by billionaires. I am sick of the brutal treatment of POC, especially young males. It is most definitely true that POC in America are being discriminated against far worse than White Americans and that must stop.

The original mistake made by the American Government was failing to specifically outlaw slavery in the Constitution. France had already outlawed slavery in the 1790's. England followed suite in the early 19th Century. Note America did outlaw the slave trade in the early 19th Century but not the ownership of slaves.

If you would like to converse with me, feel free to send me a note in my DU mailbox.
You might be interested to hear about some of the civil rights activities of my family.



I remember both those previous incidents, and the columnist is correct. yardwork May 2016 #1
This story never should have gone national yeoman6987 May 2016 #28
No way. An endangered gorilla was killed. yardwork May 2016 #49
In a city zoo. yeoman6987 May 2016 #56
By hosting that endangered animal the zoo was charged with both protecting it ToxMarz May 2016 #66
Exactly. n/t FourScore May 2016 #71
Perfect response! N/T skamaria Jun 2016 #207
Agreed. The zoo failed to protect the habitat from intrusion and the mother mdbl Jun 2016 #216
Are you freakin kidding? NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #106
She didn't "LET her kid", do anything ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #127
Some mother. Maybe a few parenting classes are in order. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #129
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The mom is somehow the victim in all of this? NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #149
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Do you have some sort of proof that the child was "nearly killed"? NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #155
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I can manage to "value the life of a child more than the life of an animal"... NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #168
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If she often "loses sight" of her kids in public places... NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #177
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"(T)he enclosure was not sufficient"... NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #186
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Do you have a child? From your comments, I suspect you just play a parent on the internet. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #144
Two - youngest just graduated. Thanks for playing though. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #148
If you have two ... Then, you know that you don't "let" a child ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #152
I guess we are from two different schools of parenting. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #156
Your kid(s) never did anything stupid? You're special and should be rich! 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #159
Sure they did, but we prevented them from jumping into gorilla habitats. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #163
Funny ... I never faced that gorilla habitat problem, and I doubt you have, either ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #173
No, can't say that ever happened to me. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #175
You are fortunate, or full of shit ... Kids are always doing ill-advised/dangerous stuff ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #182
I never said my kids didn't do some ill-advised stuff. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #185
A 4 year old has a different understanding of stupid, neither of which include ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #187
You have no idea of the near-misses that your children experienced pnwmom Jun 2016 #213
dupe pnwmom Jun 2016 #211
Oh, right. Because no good parent EVER gets distracted for a few moments pnwmom Jun 2016 #210
And what do we think of parents that allow children to access guns? AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #196
We? or I? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #206
Allowing your child opportunity to climb into a zoo enclosure is akin to a locked box or a open box? AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #225
The Cincinnati Zoo is responsible for public safety around their animals. Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #192
The zoo had an enclosure that was easily circumvented by a small child. pnwmom Jun 2016 #209
I agree with you on that point. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #237
this isn't the 1600's any more AntiBank Jun 2016 #121
This mother was identified because she posted about an incident on face book. LisaL May 2016 #2
They're weren't white, IIRC. So the fallout was consistent with ecstatic May 2016 #15
The article claims their history wasn't reported. Which is clearly LisaL May 2016 #24
I noticed the same intrepidity Jun 2016 #83
I have actually heard some of the Trump types say they should have doc03 May 2016 #3
Jesus a la izquierda May 2016 #31
I never read internet comments kdmorris Jun 2016 #200
Wow that is just sick. I think this country is going out of its mind. I mean in my doc03 Jun 2016 #212
Yeah, it's kind of scary how insane people seem kdmorris Jun 2016 #217
There have been a lot of incidents too treestar May 2016 #4
Thank you. I was just about to post this. Shaun has a series on twitter, also. Luminous Animal May 2016 #5
Human-Centricism will kill the Planet. glinda May 2016 #6
Um, have to disagree on the San Fran tiger case. Plenty was written about the previous criminal Coventina May 2016 #7
I remember all these articles. LisaL May 2016 #8
I 100% blame the "victims" in that case. They broke into a closed zoo, drank themselves silly, and Coventina May 2016 #9
You can blame them (or not). LisaL May 2016 #11
Agreed. They were exposed in the press for the low-life scum they were. n/t Coventina May 2016 #12
IIRC the SF zoo wasn't closed maxsolomon May 2016 #17
That tiger was a "man eating" tiger. LisaL May 2016 #18
Did she have any reason NOT to hate people? Coventina May 2016 #23
She likely had very good reasons to hate people. LisaL May 2016 #26
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I was asking because the other poster mentioned that the tiger hated people. Coventina Jun 2016 #136
And those creeps had the nerve to sue for their injuries, when they KILLED their friend. Coventina May 2016 #20
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I never said that, but nice try. Coventina Jun 2016 #137
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I sure as hell am blaming the creepy cowards who intentionally pissed off a tiger they thought Coventina Jun 2016 #143
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You stated because of SHOPLIFTING. I don't think people should be killed by tigers for shoplifting. Coventina Jun 2016 #146
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Oh please spare me. They were throwing rocks at her, while drunk and high, and the zoo was closed. Coventina Jun 2016 #151
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No, I don't. They brought on themselves. n/t Coventina Jun 2016 #154
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I've already outlined why I feel as I do. They purposely stayed behind after closing time to Coventina Jun 2016 #158
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Hell yes I value Tatiana over those creeps!! Coventina Jun 2016 #165
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No, you said I thought they should die for shoplifting. But whatevs. Coventina Jun 2016 #171
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Yeah, sure, all they did was make faces. Coventina Jun 2016 #180
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I invented nothing. The title of your article states the tiger was provoked. Coventina Jun 2016 #184
I remember that one too, Coventina BuelahWitch Jun 2016 #233
I'm very glad to know that I'm not alone in remembering and honoring Tatiana. Coventina Jun 2016 #235
This explains a lot. Up until today, ecstatic May 2016 #10
well, I know a lot of people were upset cause of how few of those gorillas are left Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #52
I'm with you, ecstatic. Had no idea the family was black, and I came to the same Nay Jun 2016 #117
On the other hand, in an officer involved shooting, the victim's race IS important to know JimDandy May 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Paladin May 2016 #14
I've spent part of the day asking fools gwheezie May 2016 #16
I agree - great post (nt) nyabingi Jun 2016 #122
Fucking up knows no color maxsolomon May 2016 #19
America never passes up a chance to be anti-black MrScorpio May 2016 #21
I read everything that I could find about this incident. ladjf May 2016 #78
Did you even bother reading the gist of Shaun King's article? MrScorpio Jun 2016 #81
I did "bother" to read a dozen or so articles and watch ladjf Jun 2016 #84
That information didn't come from either King or myself MrScorpio Jun 2016 #98
If there is anything I don't need is a lecture on racial awareness. ladjf Jun 2016 #113
Anti-black, how about pro-endangered species? Democat Jun 2016 #100
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I had no idea the family was black until this article. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #107
The Daily Mail is a RW British tabloid Mosby Jun 2016 #124
Shaun King is very progressive, if controversial gollygee Jun 2016 #161
It's always easier to blame someone else. jalan48 May 2016 #22
Racism and sexism Texasgal May 2016 #25
Yeah there's that too. N/t gollygee May 2016 #27
Black or white, here's an idea awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #29
Do you know she was on her phone? N/t gollygee May 2016 #30
Some eyewitnesses said she was taking pictures gwheezie May 2016 #32
That's not "on the phone" like having a conversation and ignoring your kids gollygee May 2016 #33
I agree with you gwheezie May 2016 #37
delete uponit7771 May 2016 #75
Judging by what I see every day awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #40
We're not talking about "people today." gollygee May 2016 #41
She wasn't paying attention to her kid awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #42
I think the majority of parents have not seen what their kid is doing gollygee May 2016 #43
Exactly..lots of parents, probably almost all parents skepticscott May 2016 #59
Here's another idea nini May 2016 #47
She was taking care of her crying daughter. But, you know, that's just like a fucking phone. ieoeja Jun 2016 #188
She was trying to comfort another crying child and packing up to go. pnwmom Jun 2016 #214
Before cell phones, parents were never distracted. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #238
what in the actual fuck. nt retrowire May 2016 #34
I don't think bringing up the fathers criminal record is racist Travis_0004 May 2016 #35
I think you're fooling yourself gollygee May 2016 #38
I agree. jack_krass Jun 2016 #79
When people are part of an incident, they sometimes do gollygee Jun 2016 #90
It's completely irrelevant because the father wasn't present. And it's further irrelevant pnwmom Jun 2016 #215
Animal rights mutters are nutty. AngryAmish May 2016 #36
Actually they did have a choice maxsolomon Jun 2016 #123
Yeah, but this one was armed. CPD found a gun. n/t ieoeja Jun 2016 #189
What a bunch of bullshit. From a fake black man who rips off black people 7962 May 2016 #39
"fake black man"-- WTF? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #53
Yes, fake. First he claimed to be black, then biracial when caught in his lie 7962 May 2016 #73
fair enough, but I'm not sure how that negates any of the points made in the column Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #85
His points are ridiculous. As many here have already pointed out 7962 Jun 2016 #87
He looked like a multiracial kid in his childhood photos gollygee Jun 2016 #91
No, its not. Its a legitimate term used by both sides. Look it up. 7962 Jun 2016 #110
There's a little boy who lives down the street who looks very much like that gollygee Jun 2016 #111
And he's been known that way his whole life. 7962 Jun 2016 #114
Google "Shaun King, black twitter and BLM" romanic May 2016 #76
Every accusation that you made originated from the right wing media. Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #218
Who died and made you the arbiter of what is or isn't black? nt MrScorpio Jun 2016 #109
"What"? Dont you mean "who"? Biology is the arbiter, not me. 7962 Jun 2016 #112
Some folks will see racism in anything... TipTok May 2016 #44
Of ryan_cats May 2016 #45
I've been saying since the first kid ever fell into the first zoo exhibit. Rex May 2016 #46
After reading through the replies I can't even respond WHEN CRABS ROAR May 2016 #48
If not for this OP, I would have no idea of the race of the family. Nye Bevan May 2016 #50
Well it is all about you gollygee May 2016 #54
LOL! kwassa May 2016 #61
Ha. +1 nt laundry_queen May 2016 #74
The author is "making it about themselves" Democat Jun 2016 #102
Why did they look into the father's criminal history when he wasn't even at the zoo? gollygee Jun 2016 #103
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Did you read the original story? Democat Jun 2016 #166
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No one I know or have read comments from did either. 7962 Jun 2016 #88
Yep. "If the child had been white they would have shot the gorilla!" Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #104
what that columnist did was absolutely despicable. and thank you for that horrific list of niyad May 2016 #51
That's already happened too. Quackers Jun 2016 #82
I can understand a child doing something so silly. hope nothing happened to the giraffe. niyad Jun 2016 #120
assholes Marrah_G May 2016 #55
Oh, Keeerist! You can go to the well with that one once too often you know. Peregrine Took May 2016 #57
I had no idea the family was Black. blackspade May 2016 #58
"America. 2016. " melman May 2016 #60
and your point is? kwassa May 2016 #62
That the Daily Mail is a British paper melman May 2016 #63
Of course it is. How is this relevant to the information in the OP? kwassa May 2016 #65
Because the last line in the piece is melman May 2016 #68
Why not? kwassa May 2016 #69
Because when he says melman May 2016 #72
Shaun King is American and he wrote it about an American incident. N/t gollygee Jun 2016 #97
The Daily Mail is a right wing British tabloid Mosby Jun 2016 #126
This isn't LBN gollygee Jun 2016 #140
So, that boundary matters, but the Atlantic Ocean doesn't? AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #198
This is 2016 gollygee Jun 2016 #199
Prove it. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #201
Ok gollygee Jun 2016 #202
This doesn't break out viewers by region but AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #203
I agree that it's a cheap tabloid and that it leans way to the right overall gollygee Jun 2016 #204
I'm glad we discussed this. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #226
I'm a parent too gollygee Jun 2016 #229
Because the UK is not inside the United States. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #197
. kwassa Jun 2016 #232
Yes, it is quite a bit less of a differentiation than I had previously thought. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #236
I don't care if he was Jack the ripper MFM008 May 2016 #64
He wasn't there. gollygee Jun 2016 #94
Even TMZ had the decency to point out rocktivity May 2016 #67
What in the hell coco77 May 2016 #70
Bernie has nothing to do with it gollygee Jun 2016 #86
I dismiss it here because its a STUPID ALLEGATION. 7962 Jun 2016 #89
Any case where the ones responsible are black romanic May 2016 #77
People doing what people do - assume cabot Jun 2016 #80
He's 100% correct in this regard... Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #92
I don't follow him on Twitter gollygee Jun 2016 #93
Somewhat related... Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #95
Well at least he doesn't want to destroy this election gollygee Jun 2016 #96
This family was hated for getting the animal killed before anyone knew their race Democat Jun 2016 #99
This is talking about the newspaper looking into the father's criminal history gollygee Jun 2016 #101
I'm going to continue to reserve my outrage... NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #105
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King is complaing about all the other incidents where the parents weren't treated this way. hughee99 Jun 2016 #108
King is a joke of a 'journalist' who has crafted his brief career from racial sophistry. Bonx Jun 2016 #115
Based on what I've read from him, your assessment seems to be spot on. n/t hughee99 Jun 2016 #116
There are no words... tularetom Jun 2016 #118
I wish people would actually read the stories gollygee Jun 2016 #119
How about leaving the gorillas nyabingi Jun 2016 #125
It would just be nice if that mother would apologize for her negligence bluestateguy Jun 2016 #128
She can't do that in our society gollygee Jun 2016 #164
She's a victim of society? Democat Jun 2016 #167
DO people not read before responding anymore? gollygee Jun 2016 #169
your local rw radio station makes it 'acceptable' certainot Jun 2016 #130
Black gorilla lives matter IronLionZion Jun 2016 #131
Here's a white woman mauled by a white polar bear IronLionZion Jun 2016 #135
You clearly don't know the Daily Mail. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #174
Viz Comic's parody of the typical Daily Mail reader. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #179
I 100% agree with Shaun King. What I do NOT get is why you were compelled to interject ... ebayfool Jun 2016 #193
No, that's not what I meant gollygee Jun 2016 #194
I'm glad to hear it. It does look like a mighty broad brush, though. ebayfool Jun 2016 #205
The daily mail is a british tabloid, not american. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #195
What are you talking about. The link is from the NEW YORK Daily News. Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #219
Lol it's sad that I didn't notice that either gollygee Jun 2016 #220
The racist material/focus/story narrative cited in the New York Daily News was published by the Dail AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #224
Which you clearly did not read. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #223
You clearly do not understand why Shaun King wrote the article. Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #228
And you clearly do not understand who the author of the racist turn of narrative is. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #234
Great piece. Thanks for posting! n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #208
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #221
How the is it relevant that this dude endorsed Bernie? What does that have to do... ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #222
I've addressed this a couple of times gollygee Jun 2016 #231
I am sad and angry about the death of the Gorilla... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #227
Yup...if this proves anything it's that Black Lives don't Matter. ileus Jun 2016 #230
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