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107. If you are really interested in this topic, here is some real research on GMOs and intellectual

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 08:49 AM

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property rights:

Liability for Damage Caused by GMOs: An Economic Perspective

Genetically Modified Organisms: Who Should Pay the Price for Pollen Drift Contamination?

Seeds of Dispute: Intellectual-Property Rights and Agricultural Biodiversity

Remembering the “Big Five”: Hawaii's Constitutional Obligation to Regulate the Genetic Engineering Industry

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GMO free sugar makes about as much sense as organic cigarettes imo. [View all] yellowcanine May 2016 OP

It's so that you can eat unhealthy but still feel good about your diet. hughee99 May 2016 #1

Nat Sherman Angel Martin May 2016 #2

I've smoked Shermans for years REP May 2016 #19

It's all about attempting to rein in the rampant Blues Heron May 2016 #3

^^this^^ Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #5

Wrong again. HuckleB May 2016 #17

I get that people believe that - but there is precious little evidence yellowcanine May 2016 #6

Purchasing based on these labels is largely a consumer protest statement GliderGuider May 2016 #8

Organic and non-GMO sugar GliderGuider May 2016 #7

Nah, Sugar Cane (non GMO) is as much "Big Ag" as Sugar Beets (GMO) yellowcanine May 2016 #10

perhaps you might have stated this in your op. hopemountain May 2016 #30

Bingo. U4ikLefty May 2016 #47

Of course name calling is so much more honest. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #67

Conspiracy theories are so much fun, though! HuckleB Jun 2016 #68

I just wish Monsanto would hurry up with the check! yellowcanine Jun 2016 #70

They're working on GMO checks, with more bounce! HuckleB Jun 2016 #71

You actually have to be GOOD at it....no check for you. U4ikLefty Jun 2016 #83

Nah, sanctimony & ROFL smileys are much more convincing. U4ikLefty Jun 2016 #81

Ironic. HuckleB Jun 2016 #86

If the name fits...... U4ikLefty Jun 2016 #80

Contradictory. HuckleB Jun 2016 #87

Name calling is what you do when you can't argue the facts. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #112

Discussion is not started by industry propaganda. HuckleB May 2016 #48

But yet you engaged, or at least pretended to. So the OP must not have been so bad. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #66

It did not occur to me. Do I need to consult with you on my OPs? yellowcanine Jun 2016 #72

No, it's not. It's about marketing. HuckleB May 2016 #16

thanks, glider guider nt. hopemountain May 2016 #31

His propaganda was debunked. HuckleB May 2016 #44

+ 1 Scientific May 2016 #9

You really do buy into any fiction you find, don't you? HuckleB May 2016 #12

Non-GMO sugar will increase the use of pesticides. HuckleB May 2016 #11

Organic, non-GMO sugar doesn't increase the use of pesticides or herbicides. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #33

You can say that, but it's not true. HuckleB May 2016 #35

Why? pnwmom May 2016 #36

I already showed why. HuckleB May 2016 #37

This Harvard professor disagrees with you. pnwmom May 2016 #38

Well, the professors in the links I provided actually discussed reality. HuckleB May 2016 #39

They don't use chemical pesticides on organic sugar beets. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #40

Yes, they do. HuckleB May 2016 #41

Not in the U.S. It's regulated by the Department of Agriculture here. pnwmom May 2016 #42

And they use plenty of pesticides and herbicides. HuckleB May 2016 #43

The Dept. of Agriculture doesn't allow organic food producers to use them. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #45

You keep telling yourself that. HuckleB May 2016 #46

Here, the FDA can tell you. https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national-organic-pro Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #52

So you think organic pesticides are not pesticides? HuckleB Jun 2016 #62

Isn't that the same as asking me if I think water is water? Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #76

You might want to look a little further. HuckleB Jun 2016 #77

Demonstrably wrong Major Nikon Jun 2016 #56

The alcohols listed, for example, are not comparable to the pesticides pnwmom Jun 2016 #57

Demonstrably wrong again Major Nikon Jun 2016 #58

Your link doesn't support your point. nt pnwmom Jun 2016 #59

It was your points you never supported to begin with and twice you were proven wrong Major Nikon Jun 2016 #60

Here's something showing pesticides are used in organics. You'll ignore it though. Lancero Jun 2016 #61

Organic producers can use some pesticides. All pesticides are made of chemicals. Even water is a yellowcanine Jun 2016 #73

You used a marketing site as a link? And it does not support your claim. HuckleB Jun 2016 #65

When you don't test for so called organic pesticides MattBaggins May 2016 #49

It's funny how she ignored the content of the links I offered. HuckleB May 2016 #51

Easier than shooting fish in a barrel. Really. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #74

Actually, the organic food industry is tightly regulated womanofthehills Jun 2016 #90

Tightly regulated by the USDA Marketing Service, as in they are providing a service to Big Organic® Major Nikon Jun 2016 #96

Beahahahahahahahaha!!!! HuckleB Jun 2016 #128

That article doesn't mention sugar or GMOs. It is about fruits and veggies. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #115

LOL GulfCoast66 May 2016 #22

It makes even less sense, since sugar is sugar. cpwm17 May 2016 #4

perhaps to you - but nearly every product on the hopemountain May 2016 #32

Here's formula for sugar (sucrose): cpwm17 May 2016 #34

so i guess you would not care whether your sucrose came hopemountain Jun 2016 #53

So you have a religious preference. HuckleB Jun 2016 #63

So according to you, Roundup in all our rivers & air is not a problem womanofthehills Jun 2016 #91

In other news, researchers discovered water is wet and the sky is blue Major Nikon Jun 2016 #101

When wil you worry about more toxic products? HuckleB Jun 2016 #103

You really believe that organic farmers don't use pesticides? MattBaggins May 2016 #50

not local organic farmers - perhaps mass hopemountain Jun 2016 #54

Your last statement is not true MattBaggins Jun 2016 #55

Not true at all. HuckleB Jun 2016 #64

Organic farms are government inspected every year womanofthehills Jun 2016 #93

They aren't inspected by the government Major Nikon Jun 2016 #98

FDA will begin testing of GLYPHOSATE - FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS YEAR womanofthehills Jun 2016 #119

Sure, because as we all know the "government" doesn't extend past the FDA Major Nikon Jun 2016 #123

And yeah we have been there before and you even admitted your claim was complete bullshit Major Nikon Jun 2016 #130

Organic fruits and vegetables much cleaner than conventional food womanofthehills Jun 2016 #89

what should be made clear to consumers is that 'organic' does not equal 'safe' Major Nikon Jun 2016 #99

Buy your organic food from local farmers who you know and it's safe womanofthehills Jun 2016 #121

Either they aren't huge or they use pesticides Major Nikon Jun 2016 #124

they sure don't use the most toxic ones like 2,4-d and glyphosate with polyethoxylated tallow amine womanofthehills Jun 2016 #92

No they use ones that are more toxic like copper sulfate and a lot more of it Major Nikon Jun 2016 #97

It's about feeling better about something, even though it harms the environment. HuckleB May 2016 #13

Then... sendero May 2016 #14

But why would anyone buy something that pretends to be better when it's worse? HuckleB May 2016 #15

GM Crops Now Banned in 38 Countries Worldwide – Sustainable Pulse Research womanofthehills Jun 2016 #94

And there is no logical justification for that. HuckleB Jun 2016 #104

I don't make the distinction. But anti gmo activists are pushing it. yellowcanine May 2016 #20

Got news got you GulfCoast66 May 2016 #23

The way I see it is I help pay for price supports also. yellowcanine May 2016 #24

I am dense at times GulfCoast66 May 2016 #27

There is, chemically, no difference, both are heavily processed and bad for you. N/t Humanist_Activist May 2016 #18

I might on average, eat about a teaspoon of sugar a week. And I eat organic. Luminous Animal May 2016 #21

So you know lots of people who have been conned ... HuckleB May 2016 #29

It is worth paying more money for chickens raised humanly than for tortured chickens womanofthehills Jun 2016 #95

That has nothing to do with GMOs. HuckleB Jun 2016 #105

YOU MUST BE KIDDING - ALL THE ANIMAL FOOD HAS HIGH LEVELS OF GLYPHOSATE & GMO'S womanofthehills Jun 2016 #120

Meh. Putin's mouthpiece RT Major Nikon Jun 2016 #125

Which is BS, and has nothing to do with animal welfare. HuckleB Jun 2016 #127

I only eat salt that's GMO free. NobodyHere May 2016 #25

I usually pour some GMO on my salt that I pour on my HFCS that I pour on my Rex May 2016 #28

Added bonus is that it is gluten free also. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #75

I thought cigs were organic? Rex May 2016 #26

Yeah I have tried to make that point before but it is wasted effort. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #69

GMO is a superior form of plant breeding Major Nikon Jun 2016 #102

Here is a list of Additives that are allowed to be put in cigarettes. Jesus Malverde Jun 2016 #78

I dunno, Mr. Esler would disagree. Rex Jun 2016 #79

It makes as much sense as Gluten Free, Organic, Fat Free Sugar Thor_MN Jun 2016 #82

That makes more sense than gluten free water. And yeah, that IS a thing. Lancero Jun 2016 #84

Leaving the health issue out of the debate, the GMO movement has turned natural plant life into Vote2016 Jun 2016 #85

Read the links in post 16 and get back to us. HuckleB Jun 2016 #88

Unless you're being paid to promote GMOs on the internet, I doubt you have read as much research on Vote2016 Jun 2016 #106

You are ignoring science, and your "research" is just industry propaganda. HuckleB Jun 2016 #108

It actually looks more like a google search Major Nikon Jun 2016 #114

Oh, I'm sure of that. HuckleB Jun 2016 #126

Here's some even more interesting research Major Nikon Jun 2016 #111

Is that because you're being paid to hawk organics on the interwebs? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #113

It gets even funnier Major Nikon Jun 2016 #117

And funnier still Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #129

Plant patent laws have been around for almost 100 years Major Nikon Jun 2016 #100

If you are really interested in this topic, here is some real research on GMOs and intellectual Vote2016 Jun 2016 #107

And what am I supposed to derive from any of this? Major Nikon Jun 2016 #109

"Then the GMO cross pollinates ... and now the neighbouring farmer has a crop dependent..." yellowcanine Jun 2016 #110

It's just repetition of anti-GMO talking points which have been debunked a million times Major Nikon Jun 2016 #116

"Power lines cause cancer" would have more of a potential scientific basis though. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #118

Que the Monsatan skull and crossbones then Major Nikon Jun 2016 #122