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In reply to the discussion: Sweden stirs debate with women-only swimming, in nod to Muslims [View all]Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)89. The Wikipedia article on Islam in Sweden is interesting.
Early Muslim immigrants were fleeing Islamic societies like Iran, for more freedom. These recent immigrants are fleeing poverty and war not religious extremism.
Sad to see Swedish state funds some mosques and their misoginist messages.
In 2012, the SVT program Uppdrag granskning (Mission: Investigation) visited 10 mosques once with a hidden camera and once with a visible camera. When the representatives were aware of being filmed, they stated that they supported values such as gender equality. However, when two undercover journalists posed as Muslim women with difficulties in their marriage, the answers from the majority of the visited imams were different. The imams told the women that they were expected to sleep with their husbands even if they did not want to, that they were to accept being beaten and strongly discouraged them to go to the police. Since about half of the visited mosques receive state or local funding, they are expected to promote basic values of Swedish society, such as equal rights between genders and to counteract discrimination and violence.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Sweden
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Would transgender individuals who identify as women be permitted to swim during these hours? (nt)
Nye Bevan
May 2016
#1
Men who refuse to shake hands with women should not be part of a secular government leadership
oberliner
May 2016
#3
At one point, NYC and others had women only subway cars, for purely secular reasons.
rug
May 2016
#5
Gosh your own link tells a far more complex tale than you suggest....one car experiment:
Bluenorthwest
May 2016
#10
1 hour set aside for women only seems reasonable, as long as long they have the traditional
Fast Walker 52
May 2016
#6
I'm sympathetic to your point and I'm ok with not having twomen-only hours too
Fast Walker 52
May 2016
#46
You are a bigot who thinks all Muslims are Saudi-influenced Wahhabi fundamentalists.
Odin2005
May 2016
#24
It's 14 out of 100 cities. This indicates it is not a very popular choice at all.
Bluenorthwest
May 2016
#34
Obviously that is not my point. Your snark is motivated by bias. That's obvious.
Bluenorthwest
May 2016
#67
Curves is a private business, what you suggest is closing down the beaches which belong to us all
Bluenorthwest
May 2016
#66
While no expert in Sweden, most European sports facilities serve the same niche as health clubs
whatthehey
Jun 2016
#83
The immigrants should adapt to the customs and laws of their host country.
Dont call me Shirley
May 2016
#56
Misplaced homonym. I think you meant to say "wear" special bathing suits. (eom)
StevieM
Jun 2016
#71
It happens to all of us at some point, no big deal. Also, you can always edit your post. (eom)
StevieM
Jun 2016
#86
So it's now considered "progressive" for the state to bend to the demands of religion....
davidn3600
Jun 2016
#72
Sweden didn't have these problems before the huge influx of muslim immigrants.
Quantess
Jun 2016
#93