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140. we have to remember that Non Religious does not usually mean Atheist

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:27 AM

Jun 2016

many people view themselves as non religious meaning they don't really live their life based on some religious teachings. but they still believe in some higher power .

i'm an atheist and while i do come across many non religious types , i don't usually meet those who are atheist .

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Penn Jillette: Time for atheists to stand up and be counted [View all] Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 OP

Be counted for what? Egnever Jun 2016 #1

Right, we should just stay in the closet. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #3

You aren't a group Egnever Jun 2016 #5

I got my ass kicked by older kids at age 7 at the school bus stop because i answered Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #15

So you have turned into the same people you met when you were 7 Egnever Jun 2016 #18

How the everloving fuck do you get that? Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #25

Cause now you are ready to assault people that don't believe in atheism Egnever Jun 2016 #31

Did you maybe miss the words "self defense" in that post? Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #39

What comes through quite clearly is your contempt for people who believe in religion. Egnever Jun 2016 #50

My atheism is a trait. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #57

right and if that imaginary friend suddenly came down and performed miracles Egnever Jun 2016 #78

If that does happen, please let me know. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #85

Me, too. Then I can stop holding my breath. lindysalsagal Jun 2016 #134

Yep. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #136

Huh? maddiemom Jun 2016 #122

I grew up in the church with conservative parents, I am an Athiest and Liberal and did not find... Matt_R Jun 2016 #141

I had the same thing happen at the same age. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #144

It was mostly going along with what my parents wanted. Matt_R Jun 2016 #150

What comes through quite clearly is that you are making shit up to grind your axe. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #58

That is so not what he said! tblue37 Jun 2016 #138

Damn straight. bravenak Jun 2016 #142

There is no God, this past month I've had 3 cousins murdered, JRLeft Jun 2016 #148

I agree bravenak Jun 2016 #157

Thanks! JRLeft Jun 2016 #162

Not a group but a demographic. GuestCheck Jun 2016 #110

Fair enough Egnever Jun 2016 #114

Yes, we are a group awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #117

So only people who claim to believe in GOD passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #120

Not sure where you get that Egnever Jun 2016 #121

Every person in this country deserves recognition and protection passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #124

Nor do we believe that creationism belongs in the classroom. LiberalAndProud Jun 2016 #139

Except, they do. ladyVet Jun 2016 #145

Atheist groups are becoming more and more organized... TipTok Jun 2016 #151

Well, as long as we stay in the closet, they can feel safe Warpy Jun 2016 #8

What nonsense Egnever Jun 2016 #16

You're the one making up straw men. Warpy Jun 2016 #19

aww you have a sad Egnever Jun 2016 #21

"Don't you dare suggest my magic sky-friend isnt real" Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #28

I would agree Egnever Jun 2016 #33

Oh please. Which is more likely? nt SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #51

If you read this board? Egnever Jun 2016 #53

I meant existence or nonexistence of a "god." SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #61

you can 'suggest' anything you want. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #64

I think you're the one spouting nonsense. ladyVet Jun 2016 #146

What you deserve is respect basselope Jun 2016 #4

in the form of what? Egnever Jun 2016 #6

Not to be dismissed from the "Conversation" basselope Jun 2016 #9

What conversation? Egnever Jun 2016 #11

I'm actually not an athiest. basselope Jun 2016 #26

You find that surprising? Egnever Jun 2016 #37

No, I don't find it surprising at all. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #63

Let's see if we can lead you over the finish line here... basselope Jun 2016 #96

LOL good try but no Egnever Jun 2016 #99

Do I need to slow it down even more. basselope Jun 2016 #133

You say you don't get it Cartoonist Jun 2016 #38

Except there isn't a large group Egnever Jun 2016 #42

Whaaaa? SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #48

now you are claiming being atheist makes you a minority? Egnever Jun 2016 #56

Sigh.... SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #66

My argument is politicians pay attention to the majority. Egnever Jun 2016 #79

Never said they didn't. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #88

What civil rights are you denied as an atheist? Egnever Jun 2016 #90

Well, in Texas I could not, theoretically, be elected to any public office. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #92

Well I am sure that could be challenged pretty easily. Egnever Jun 2016 #94

Oh good grief. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #97

except it has already been ruled on. Egnever Jun 2016 #106

I give up. On talking with you. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #108

Let's see how big it is. Cartoonist Jun 2016 #52

Cool! Egnever Jun 2016 #62

That's a BS number. basselope Jun 2016 #98

Non religious Egnever Jun 2016 #113

Again.. try to follow. basselope Jun 2016 #132

You didn't bother to read frogmarch Jun 2016 #10

Ok I will read the article. Egnever Jun 2016 #12

Ok read the article and it appears to be an endorsement of a third party candidate. Egnever Jun 2016 #14

CLEARLY I discounted the Gary Johnson endorsement... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #22

Wasn't responding to you Egnever Jun 2016 #24

One deserves respect... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #30

Huh? SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #47

My husband has asked me to please not tell his east Texas family I'm an atheist, mountain grammy Jun 2016 #112

Ain't that the truth. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #115

We should get atheist-based federal funding and tax exemptions valerief Jun 2016 #55

Well, ffrf actually did. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #70

Thanks for the link! nt valerief Jun 2016 #87

Is there any reason an atheist church would not qualify? Egnever Jun 2016 #82

There is no such thing as an atheist church. Church = magic thinking. nt valerief Jun 2016 #86

Says you Egnever Jun 2016 #89

Hi! It isn't called church. It's called assembly. Church is where Christians gather to worship. GuestCheck Jun 2016 #118

Call it what you will Egnever Jun 2016 #119

You can be a Unitarian-Universalist and be an atheist, agnostic or pagan. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2016 #128

Sounds like something my wife would love Egnever Jun 2016 #129

They're community centers. Nothing wrong with that! nt valerief Jun 2016 #137

"I detest this I am special nonsense." .99center Jun 2016 #71

I think the whole point of politicians pandering to them Egnever Jun 2016 #84

not special compensation passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #116

Wow. I expected better. Iggo Jun 2016 #147

But how can that be done without believers telling us we are mean? HuckleB Jun 2016 #2

In 2014 Pew found 3.1% of those polled called themselves Atheists NightWatcher Jun 2016 #7

That's the reality. HuckleB Jun 2016 #13

Yet still there's a untrustworthy stigma applied to non believers NightWatcher Jun 2016 #20

It won't happen in my lifetime. HuckleB Jun 2016 #23

I think it'll get better. The American Taliban has peaked and are on the way down NightWatcher Jun 2016 #32

In terms of numbers, I think you're right. HuckleB Jun 2016 #40

I don't care how many there are or aren't. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #72

I've never met another atheist Fumesucker Jun 2016 #81

Now that you mention it, SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #91

Sounds like they've already been counted. Nt hughee99 Jun 2016 #29

Meanwhile on the other side of the pond: Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #59

we have to remember that Non Religious does not usually mean Atheist JI7 Jun 2016 #140

That's a common point of confusion. kentauros Jun 2016 #159

When I am asked about religion I just say I do not believe in magic or miracles. I don't mention god Monk06 Jun 2016 #17

I'm not really an atheist. I do yoga. That's kind of a religion. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #27

The precised definition of "Atheist" is without God (or gods) Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #34

Well, that is true. HuckleB Jun 2016 #36

I've been told I "shouldn't tell people that" for merely declaring I'm an agnostic ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #35

You win post of the day! HuckleB Jun 2016 #41

As an Ex-Atheist I have come to detest the "New Atheism" movement Odin2005 Jun 2016 #43

I'm a humanist, which is based on Atheism... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #45

I was not refering to traditional Humanists in my post. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #65

Simply, I'm cool with what anyone believes to their core... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #68

That's part of the point... TipTok Jun 2016 #154

I'm a STEM person, and I have no disdain for the humanities. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #93

Good grief. I've not encountered that mindset in the secular community. LiberalAndProud Jun 2016 #149

It would be better to criticize individuals who end up with that tag. HuckleB Jun 2016 #54

By "scientism" I was referring to a naive attitude that... Odin2005 Jun 2016 #73

I find the idea of an ex-atheist difficult to swallow. You must have been an AINO. nt valerief Jun 2016 #60

Of for fuck's sake, I hate the "you were never a REAL atheist" BS. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #67

As I understand it, SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #95

That's true Arazi Jun 2016 #107

Buddhism has god-like beings (devas and asuras), supernatural beliefs like Karma and Rebirth... Odin2005 Jun 2016 #131

Which is equally as silly as any of the big 3 religions... TipTok Jun 2016 #155

Right, because there should be no blowback from the fact religion is fucking a lot of things up..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #75

I'm a Buddhist, so I doubt that I am "privileged and protected" in most parts of the US. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #77

True, it's not just the non-organized-religious. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #109

Rec'cing for the "be counted" part Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #44

Thanks Warren! Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #46

OT: I think we've had this conversation before Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #49

Penn Jillette is a libertarian douche tenderfoot Jun 2016 #69

But he's an Atheist so he has a bit of redemption Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #74

Well, if he's a libertarian then I don't, now that you mention it. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #76

Not that many true atheists TrappedInUtah Jun 2016 #80

To me, and many (like 10+) I know in my tiny sphere, don't believe in a "God" Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #83

I should move there. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #100

He moderated the last Libertarian Party debate oberliner Jun 2016 #101

isn't Penn Jillette the Powell Memo on two legs? MisterP Jun 2016 #102

I got a Yip Harburg (atheist) thread sitting at four recs - SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #103

Diddly-done-erino! Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #104

. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #105

Gave you a 6th rpannier Jun 2016 #123

. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #125

Penn Jillettte dancing for the Cato Institute. rug Jun 2016 #111

also advertising non-flying toys MisterP Jun 2016 #126

And he doesn't believe in infinity or beyond. rug Jun 2016 #127

He may be right about this, liberalnarb Jun 2016 #130

I'm not religious, but I am spiritually out there. Onlaketime Jun 2016 #135

He may be right. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #143

I never talk sex, politics or religion out among the general population, but if someone... Tikki Jun 2016 #152

Not a fan of Gary Johnson. My atheism did factor into my support for Bernie. backscatter712 Jun 2016 #153

Oh please....whatever. Fine, your counted frankieallen Jun 2016 #156

Fine Mendocino Jun 2016 #161

As a fellow atheist, fuck Penn Jillette Matrosov Jun 2016 #158

In CT 54% said they believe in an all-powerful god, so 46% are atheists. lindysalsagal Jun 2016 #160