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niyad

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Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:03 PM Jun 2016

Military: Precision flying teams are worth the risk, cost [View all]

(I think I am going to be ill)


Military: Precision flying teams are worth the risk, cost

DENVER (AP) — Both of the U.S. military's high-drama, high-dollar flying teams suffered crashes on the same day this week, but supporters say the Air Force Thunderbirds and the Navy Blue Angels are worth the money and the risk because they're vital to recruitment and *******help citizens feel good about their military.*********


(1 of 6) The Air Force Thunderbirds fly overhead as graduating cadets celebrate with the "hat toss" after graduation ceremonies at the 2016 class of the U.S. Air Force Academy, Thursday, June 2, 2016, in Colorado Springs, Colo. A Thunderbirds jet crashed after a flyover of the academy commencement attended by President Barack Obama. The pilot was able to safely eject from the jet. (Ryan Jones/The Gazette via AP) MAGS OUT; MANDATORY CREDIT


"It's our No. 1 recruiting tool," said retired Air Force Col. Pete McCaffrey, a pilot with the Thunderbirds from 1992 to 1995. Most people don't get to see the military up close, but when they see the elite air squadrons perform, "it gives them a sense of pride in their military and their country, and I think now we need that more than ever," McCaffrey said Friday.


A Blue Angels F/A-18 crashed Thursday near Nashville, Tennessee, while taking off for a practice session ahead of a weekend air show. The pilot, Marine Capt. Jeff Kuss, was killed. Also Thursday, a Thunderbirds F-16 crashed outside Colorado Springs, Colorado, but that pilot, Maj. Alex Turner, ejected safely. The Thunderbirds had just performed over the open-air graduation ceremony at the nearby Air Force Academy, where President Barack Obama spoke.


The military hasn't publicly discussed the cause of either crash. Both are under investigation. The Blue Angels and Thunderbirds have had dozens of crashes in their long histories, and a total of at least nine pilots been killed during performances or practices since 1985.


The teams are pricey, too. The Thunderbirds have an annual operating budget of $35 million, said Air Force Staff Sgt. Katie Maricle, a spokeswoman for the Air Combat Command. A Navy spokesman couldn't immediately provide the Blue Angels' budget.

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https://www.mail.com/news/politics/4390728-military-precision-flying-teams-worth-risk-cost.html#.23140-stage-hero1-5

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Nice post. I am surprised to be the first reply. PatrickforO Jun 2016 #1
oh, I remember that asshole. glad I wasn't there. niyad Jun 2016 #3
I guess we can't be proud of our country . . . gratuitous Jun 2016 #2
exactly niyad Jun 2016 #4
I'd like to see the data... malthaussen Jun 2016 #5
shhhhhh. we are not supposed to notice things like that! niyad Jun 2016 #6
If they'd just be honest and say "we like them because they're cool..." malthaussen Jun 2016 #7
"It's our No. 1 recruiting tool," said retired Air Force Col. Pete McCaffrey. Iggo Jun 2016 #27
You Said It! ProfessorGAC Jun 2016 #47
Giant waste of money. Vinca Jun 2016 #8
you are absolutely correct. niyad Jun 2016 #9
When the Thunderbirds come to KC leftyladyfrommo Jun 2016 #10
incredible, until the jet crashes on your house. fortunately, when the blue angel crashed the other niyad Jun 2016 #11
Except the pilot, of course. linuxman Jun 2016 #16
sorry, the pilot of the thunderbird did not die. he ejected safely. do not forget that both a blue niyad Jun 2016 #17
Same thing in Seattle, and I am in the minority hating them. LisaM Jun 2016 #29
There was a large turnout too when they came to the Air Force Base I was stationed at NobodyHere Jun 2016 #50
I 'm so surprised that the military doesn't want to cut a program. tabasco Jun 2016 #12
I know, absolutely astonishing, is it not? niyad Jun 2016 #13
There is another reason for them. DVRacer Jun 2016 #14
Their annual budget is 37 million. linuxman Jun 2016 #15
the budget for the t-birds alone is 35 mil. the navy won't say what the angels' budget is. niyad Jun 2016 #18
You can deny it, but the fact remains that they do provide a service linuxman Jun 2016 #19
That's a claim, not data... people don't believe claims by the military any longer seeing they spend uponit7771 Jun 2016 #22
That's one hell of a false dichotomy. linuxman Jun 2016 #25
Look at Welfare 4Q2u2 Jun 2016 #30
You "believe"...? I believe the moon is made of green cheese.... Bigmack Jun 2016 #33
Green Cheese You say 4Q2u2 Jun 2016 #51
and the whole DoD budget is a gigantic, sucking hole that steals from the poor, the sick, the hungry niyad Jun 2016 #23
It doesn't steal a damn thing. linuxman Jun 2016 #26
do try again. the military is the largest part of the budget of this country. but keep on beating niyad Jun 2016 #32
You're 100% dead wrong. linuxman Jun 2016 #36
Here... let me tell you about Social Security.... Bigmack Jun 2016 #37
I admire your ability to stay steadfast in the face of facts. linuxman Jun 2016 #40
Taxes are used... paid in... and benefits paid. Bigmack Jun 2016 #44
SS is paid into. You earn it. WTF is wrong with you? Nt Logical Jun 2016 #39
So are we or are we not spending money from taxes on it? linuxman Jun 2016 #41
Only because Congress steals money from it for the military. Lol, nice try! Logical Jun 2016 #42
It's all tax money. linuxman Jun 2016 #43
Lol, yes, we need macho demos of the war machine. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #38
Not a hawk by any means but I'd cut a F-35 or two before this. forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #20
SF supervisor seeks to bar Blue Angels from flying over city KamaAina Jun 2016 #21
we have those planes around here way too much, and they always worry me. it was niyad Jun 2016 #24
To be fair, you could probably justify live combat exhibitions using that reasoning. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #28
i have no problem with this dembotoz Jun 2016 #31
You guys are missing the most salient point on this issue.... Bigmack Jun 2016 #34
of course, how very silly and short-sighted of us!! niyad Jun 2016 #45
Never mind the pollution, global warming and all. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #35
you make an excellent, and mostly ignored, point. niyad Jun 2016 #46
oh snap melm00se Jun 2016 #48
nowhere in the article, nor in the posts, did anybody say that this country is the only one niyad Jun 2016 #49
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