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(82,849 posts) Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:15 PM Jun 2016

I sense some people aren't happy with party rules [View all]

You want the Democratic party tailored to suit you? Great. Just remember that the rules that are in place now were hammered out over the years by party activists who have been here for a long time before you got interested in politics. But if you want things in the party to change, come on in. Go to meetings. Build your credibility. Serve on committees. Phone bank. Canvass neighborhoods. Give money. Solicit donations.

But don't come striding in the front door three months in and expect everything to be ordered to your specification. You've got a lot of work ahead of you before that happy day.

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I sense some people aren't happy with party rules [View all] gratuitous Jun 2016 OP

Thats what ive said MFM008 Jun 2016 #1

I wouldn't apply it any particular candidate gratuitous Jun 2016 #3

The parties have rigged the system to preserve their hierarchical, authoritative control KPN Jun 2016 #12

Your premise is false and I can prove it. The GOP has changed radically in the last 8 years TeamPooka Jun 2016 #21

How sensible. I love it. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #47

that's right. nt TeamPooka Jun 2016 #48

OK, can't argue with that. But you misinterpret and assign faulty definitions to my premise. KPN Jun 2016 #57

All effective organizations are.... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #50

Yes. Occupy anyone? brush Jun 2016 #51

A--Men! I remember when I lived in Elizabeth, NJ and there were... TreasonousBastard Jun 2016 #2

Yes, you young-ins, know your place, even though glowing Jun 2016 #4

Sure that is the classic establishment route to change aikoaiko Jun 2016 #5

Exactly! KPN Jun 2016 #13

It's not the rules. kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #6

And yet another poster failing to see the irony in his own username. kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #7

As in... kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #8

so you think I am a bag of candy? Skittles Jun 2016 #18

Yes...you are! passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #22

Skittles was my cat Skittles Jun 2016 #31

What an adorable cat name passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #34

Oh that was good. kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #26

A particular scheduling.... kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #28

you're on the list Skittles Jun 2016 #32

You are funny! kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #36

awwwwwwww Skittles Jun 2016 #38

A-friggin'-men! A massive K & R. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #9

Hahaha. Silly believer you. KPN Jun 2016 #14

And what is the main argument against Bernie? That he isn't really a Democrat. A Simple Game Jun 2016 #20

You either didn't read my post and upstream posts or responded to the wrong post? KPN Jun 2016 #56

I responded to your post because I agreed with it, and yes Bernie is the only major party candidate A Simple Game Jun 2016 #61

+1000. nt Javaman Jun 2016 #64

Democrats lost 900+ state legislative, 13 Senate, 69 U.S. House seats and 12 governorships. w4rma Jun 2016 #10

I think we're already there, no? KPN Jun 2016 #15

We've lost these positions mostly because of GOP gerrymandering justiceischeap Jun 2016 #16

Hard to lose governorships and Senate seats truebluegreen Jun 2016 #33

They got to gerrymander elljay Jun 2016 #41

Could not have said it better! passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #30

+ 5. Disaster- DNC, DWS, Dem. Party unless & until there's major, progressive change. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #45

FIRE DWS! Donate to Democratic Underground for Tim Canova FL-23 here Omaha Steve Jun 2016 #46

these were all people drummed out by decades of their critical needs going unmet, MisterP Jun 2016 #11

Spot on! KPN Jun 2016 #17

"Their critical needs going unmet" = "Outvoted because people thought them kooks" ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2016 #40

+10000% avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #60

Why would you assume we haven't been around TBF Jun 2016 #19

Apathy in the primaries. Obedience in the general. They want to be the biggest fish in a small pond. w4rma Jun 2016 #24

Sadly that seems to be the case - TBF Jun 2016 #63

I sense some people don't know party history like Hillary trying to change rules in 08 mid-primary Omaha Steve Jun 2016 #23

Thank you ... Jopin Klobe Jun 2016 #39

This. nt retrowire Jun 2016 #43

"I sense some people aren't happy with party rules" ??? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #25

I'd like to see many changes in 2020 bluestateguy Jun 2016 #27

I would add elljay Jun 2016 #44

What is a Democrat to you? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #29

To quote Debbie Wasserwhocares ... Jopin Klobe Jun 2016 #35

Party activists? davidthegnome Jun 2016 #37

That's right Hillary Supporters. retrowire Jun 2016 #42

Contested ? Go for it..... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #52

I dropped out of high school in '71, 'cause Democrats were beating up on black kids. jtuck004 Jun 2016 #49

If I make a big contribution, will I get to the head of the line? Octafish Jun 2016 #53

I seriously doubt that the Superdelegate rules were installed by "party activists" Maedhros Jun 2016 #54

Your tone is sure to soothe everyone. Quantess Jun 2016 #55

Good post. Too bad the usual suspects can't hear you over the din of slogans ... Hekate Jun 2016 #58

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #59

Third generation Democrat here to say you are full of arrogant gasses. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #62