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54. This headline is a fallacy, known as a 'False Dichotomy'.

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:01 PM

Jun 2016

The Stanford rapist FACED, a lot more than 6 months. He was sentenced to 6 months. He FACED 20 years for the five separate felony counts.

The activist (who was not being an activist at the time, so it is as irrelevant as the swimmer being a swimmer at the time of the rape, since he was not swimming) FACED 4 years, and was sentenced to 3 months.

Not equitable, but not because the activist's sentence was too long, but rather because the rapist's sentence was far too short, and the judge now faces a credible recall effort for doing so.

In all 50 states, it is unlawful to attempt to remove a person who has been arrested from police custody. The penalty is not trivial, and 90 days is actually quite light for the crime. (Worse crime than the crime the person the activist was trying to liberate was accused of.)

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Why Is Black Lives Matter Activist Facing Four Years in Jail While Stanford Rapist Gets Six Months? [View all] KamaAina Jun 2016 OP

Ahhh....she can't swim ? CincyDem Jun 2016 #1

Something is Delphinus Jun 2016 #2

"Privilege" means "Private Law." malthaussen Jun 2016 #3

The BLM activist hasn't been sentenced yet NobodyHere Jun 2016 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Jun 2016 #5

+1 n/t. okieinpain Jun 2016 #8

Why? AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #72

Why is it even possible. okieinpain Jun 2016 #7

Because the "name" given to a statutory offense is not as important as its elements jberryhill Jun 2016 #64

I suspect that's a crime TeddyR Jun 2016 #65

It is jberryhill Jun 2016 #66

Thanks for the explanation n/t LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #69

Thanks. N/t okieinpain Jun 2016 #111

I'll save comment until sentence is passed. saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #9

Oh please. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #53

That's an appropriate name for the law. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #71

I knew that and your condescension leaves me unimpressed. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #93

Err, how is that an abuse of the law? Kentonio Jun 2016 #104

No, it isn't. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #110

Specifically to what has she been sentenced? jberryhill Jun 2016 #6

90 days Skittles Jun 2016 #103

Kick. Iggo Jun 2016 #10

Only the latter strikes me as outrageous. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #11

Simple -BWB malaise Jun 2016 #12

Her sentence was for 90 days... not four years. FBaggins Jun 2016 #13

Three things: Maedhros Jun 2016 #14

You forgot something important: BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #20

Yes - I did miss that. Maedhros Jun 2016 #26

Yep. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #30

You both missed something jberryhill Jun 2016 #34

I must admit, my focus was on the woman raped by the Stanford scumbag BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #40

So, on point 3 jberryhill Jun 2016 #38

The stanford rapist faced 20 years. Five felonies. The lesson is; know the facts of the case. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #59

Stanford rapists' dad wrote letter passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #15

"20 minutes of action" KamaAina Jun 2016 #16

The disconnect is absolutely unreal passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #19

"Not serious crime because his son was drunk"--sorry I have to disagree. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #32

Exactly, if you kill someone in a vehicular homicide, do they let you off smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #87

More women in the legal system and government. Progressive women. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #96

I made that point years ago FrodosPet Jun 2016 #123

Yep. It seems if you say something, no matter how correct, .... BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #124

I was wondering what the mothers life must be like... TipTok Jun 2016 #125

Seriously. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author meow2u3 Jun 2016 #25

A good reason for you not to be a judge either skepticscott Jun 2016 #31

Your reply is all sorts of wrong. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #117

"Action" in such contexts is a synonym BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #33

Has anyone asked the father how many of these "20 minute actions" he has committed? nt Scruffy Rumbler Jun 2016 #21

And if what his son did is what the father considers action, then maybe LEO needs to take a peek Rex Jun 2016 #28

He needs to be thrown in jail for a long sentence... harrose Jun 2016 #97

What's the charge? mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2016 #112

What about the woman who said, "He doesn't need to be behind bars." Dr. Strange Jun 2016 #114

White rich male vs. black middle class female. Rex Jun 2016 #17

So why is she only getting 72 days? jberryhill Jun 2016 #36

Not long enough for you? Rex Jun 2016 #37

Who said they were equivalent? jberryhill Jun 2016 #41

Oh I see, you are talking apples to my oranges. Rex Jun 2016 #47

...and I was talking about a misleading headline jberryhill Jun 2016 #55

White rich male vs. black middle class female. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #44

What case? I am talking about ranking in our plutocracy, what are you talking about? Rex Jun 2016 #46

Are you unaware of the actual facts of the case beyond the headline? AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #50

ARF? Rex Jun 2016 #58

See post 59. I spelled it out for you. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #61

"a plutocracy that is run by very rich white conservative men" jberryhill Jun 2016 #60

White privilege? Jack Rabbit Jun 2016 #18

More like right-wing white privilege meow2u3 Jun 2016 #27

I know I was. Igel Jun 2016 #89

#WhitePrivilegeMatters DebbieCDC Jun 2016 #22

Another vote for "let's see what she gets". Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #23

90 days, 18 already served jberryhill Jun 2016 #35

Thanks. Seems like a more than reasonable sentence (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #42

The judge, incidentally, is a minority woman and Democrat jberryhill Jun 2016 #68

Yep. Rex Jun 2016 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jun 2016 #24

I see, and how much does Judge Elaine Lu have? jberryhill Jun 2016 #62

She doesn't know the secret hand shake d_legendary1 Jun 2016 #29

Nor did you read anything past the headline of either case. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #74

Nor did you d_legendary1 Jun 2016 #108

That one party got a sentence commensurate with the crime. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #109

Excercising 1st amendment rights should not commensurate a crime d_legendary1 Jun 2016 #116

Wrong. She was mistaken, no doubt. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #118

Incorrect headline. Jasmine Richards got 90 days in county jail IronLionZion Jun 2016 #43

I'm all in favor of more equal sentencing, but this is a poor example to use. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #45

The Democracy Now story was published at 5am PT today, alp227 Jun 2016 #51

nothing quite like riling people up before the fact hfojvt Jun 2016 #56

Clickbait IronLionZion Jun 2016 #73

initially there were five felony counts against the rapist, so theoretically, up to 20 years consecu AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #76

I see some here are confused and don't understand the inherent social ranking in our society. Rex Jun 2016 #48

Where do Democratic Asian women fall in that ranking? jberryhill Jun 2016 #70

We should ask Donald Trump IronLionZion Jun 2016 #78

Well, it is apparently the belief of many here at DU that minority women cannot be trusted jberryhill Jun 2016 #79

It's also the belief of most Americans that a judge would be white and male IronLionZion Jun 2016 #82

Yeah, this thread is unintentionally revealing jberryhill Jun 2016 #83

We're not confused. We're informed. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #77

You're using the court case as evidence for the ranking. Igel Jun 2016 #90

Racism and the power of wealth and privilege. eom. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #49

Why? MrScorpio Jun 2016 #52

Because Democratic minority women judges are biased? Is that what you want to go with? jberryhill Jun 2016 #63

Anti-black bias is not just a problem of the right MrScorpio Jun 2016 #86

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #88

And that bias is evident in this case how? jberryhill Jun 2016 #92

If all other conditions had been the same and our white preppy, rapist had been black instead... MrScorpio Jun 2016 #94

Which has what to do with this? jberryhill Jun 2016 #95

It's not the judge, it's the system ... MrScorpio Jun 2016 #98

I'm aware of that jberryhill Jun 2016 #99

Looking beyond the statistics, it's quite clear that if you're black in America, you're screwed MrScorpio Jun 2016 #101

Except that in this case, that very clearly did not happen. Kentonio Jun 2016 #105

Well, let's compare apples to apples... MrScorpio Jun 2016 #106

Yep, and these cases are a great way of pointing out the horrible disconnect in the justice system. Kentonio Jun 2016 #107

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #100

This headline is a fallacy, known as a 'False Dichotomy'. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #54

Why even bother? melman Jun 2016 #81

True, but damnit... the truth.. It wants to be known. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #85

True, alas Albertoo Jun 2016 #102

All true, but the truth is often ignored in favor of outrage. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #119

It cannot be racism because the US is "post racial". eom guillaumeb Jun 2016 #57

"felony lynching" WTF? blackspade Jun 2016 #67

We hashed that out last week KamaAina Jun 2016 #75

Turns out it is illegal in California to attempt to remove people from custody jberryhill Jun 2016 #80

Good greif people bighart Jun 2016 #84

It's not just true, it's truthy. Igel Jun 2016 #91

Wednesday morning update mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2016 #113

is democracynow.org trying to make people more ignorant on purpose? snooper2 Jun 2016 #115

While we're at it.... mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2016 #121

That does seem to be the case. Dr. Strange Jun 2016 #122

She got 90 days, a fair sentence for what she did. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #120

The point is that the rapists punishment was too short... TipTok Jun 2016 #127

One case has nothing to do with the other n/t jamese777 Jun 2016 #128