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In reply to the discussion: Glenn Greenwald’s Mitt Romney Surrogacy [View all]Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)120. Again. It is a double point... 1) Our prison system is so horrendous that judges have to
order prisoners released and 2) our judicial system is so ludicrous that pot smokers are thrown into prison.
You do know don't you that Greenwald wrote a white paper on drug decriminalization, don't you?
Drug Decriminalization in Portugal: Lessons for Creating Fair and Successful Drug Policies
http://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/drug-decriminalization-portugal-lessons-creating-fair-successful-drug-policies
On July 1, 2001, a nationwide law in Portugal took effect that decriminalized all drugs, including cocaine and heroin. Under the new legal framework, all drugs were "decriminalized," not "legalized." Thus, drug possession for personal use and drug usage itself are still legally prohibited, but violations of those prohibitions are deemed to be exclusively administrative violations and are removed completely from the criminal realm. Drug trafficking continues to be prosecuted as a criminal offense.
While other states in the European Union have developed various forms of de facto decriminalization whereby substances perceived to be less serious (such as cannabis) rarely lead to criminal prosecution Portugal remains the only EU member state with a law explicitly declaring drugs to be "decriminalized." Because more than seven years have now elapsed since enactment of Portugal's decriminalization system, there are ample data enabling its effects to be assessed.
Notably, decriminalization has become increasingly popular in Portugal since 2001. Except for some far-right politicians, very few domestic political factions are agitating for a repeal of the 2001 law. And while there is a widespread perception that bureaucratic changes need to be made to Portugal's decriminalization framework to make it more efficient and effective, there is no real debate about whether drugs should once again be criminalized. More significantly, none of the nightmare scenarios touted by preenactment decriminalization opponents from rampant increases in drug usage among the young to the transformation of Lisbon into a haven for "drug tourists" has occurred.
The political consensus in favor of decriminalization is unsurprising in light of the relevant empirical data. Those data indicate that decriminalization has had no adverse effect on drug usage rates in Portugal, which, in numerous categories, are now among the lowest in the EU, particularly when compared with states with stringent criminalization regimes. Although postdecriminalization usage rates have remained roughly the same or even decreased slightly when compared with other EU states, drug-related pathologies such as sexually transmitted diseases and deaths due to drug usage have decreased dramatically. Drug policy experts attribute those positive trends to the enhanced ability of the Portuguese government to offer treatment programs to its citizens enhancements made possible, for numerous reasons, by decriminalization.
While other states in the European Union have developed various forms of de facto decriminalization whereby substances perceived to be less serious (such as cannabis) rarely lead to criminal prosecution Portugal remains the only EU member state with a law explicitly declaring drugs to be "decriminalized." Because more than seven years have now elapsed since enactment of Portugal's decriminalization system, there are ample data enabling its effects to be assessed.
Notably, decriminalization has become increasingly popular in Portugal since 2001. Except for some far-right politicians, very few domestic political factions are agitating for a repeal of the 2001 law. And while there is a widespread perception that bureaucratic changes need to be made to Portugal's decriminalization framework to make it more efficient and effective, there is no real debate about whether drugs should once again be criminalized. More significantly, none of the nightmare scenarios touted by preenactment decriminalization opponents from rampant increases in drug usage among the young to the transformation of Lisbon into a haven for "drug tourists" has occurred.
The political consensus in favor of decriminalization is unsurprising in light of the relevant empirical data. Those data indicate that decriminalization has had no adverse effect on drug usage rates in Portugal, which, in numerous categories, are now among the lowest in the EU, particularly when compared with states with stringent criminalization regimes. Although postdecriminalization usage rates have remained roughly the same or even decreased slightly when compared with other EU states, drug-related pathologies such as sexually transmitted diseases and deaths due to drug usage have decreased dramatically. Drug policy experts attribute those positive trends to the enhanced ability of the Portuguese government to offer treatment programs to its citizens enhancements made possible, for numerous reasons, by decriminalization.
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Seems some Progressives are going to "disillusion" themselves into a Romney presidency.
FarLeftFist
Jun 2012
#134
now, don't pee the britches... i didn't coin that phrase, but it always made me laugh!
dionysus
Jun 2012
#44
Obama is better than Romney but that doesn't mean all criticism must be on hold for five months.
Jim Lane
Jun 2012
#11
Could you provide an example of misleading dubious dishonest fictional mistruth.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#96
The irony is that Juan Cole made a statement supportive of the troops in Iraq...
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#86
I was one of the few people here who said Bush was going on old UN resolutions.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#102
Well Hey... It's Damned Bi-Partisan Of Y'All To Encourage Low Information Voters On The Dem Side Too
WillyT
Jun 2012
#17
Poll numbers have little to do with vote suppression via demoralization from the "extreme" left.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#87
What is your criticism of these mercenaries. I've been trying for months to find out (online)
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#92
Yeah, sounds like he's bemoaning that we're building prisons in Afghanistan as opposed to here.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#99
His criticism is that the government is diverting funds from necessary domestic
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#115
Again. It is a double point... 1) Our prison system is so horrendous that judges have to
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#120
Decriminalization. Not legalization. Jeesh. You are proven wrong over and over again
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#131
A minor distinction. And no, sorry, he's bemoaning the lack of prison money here being spent...
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#132
Greenwald: We’ve created the world’s largest and one of its harshest and most merciless penal states
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#136
Neither of those links changes the fact that he is bemoaning that we spent money on prisons...
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#148
Read what he wrote. His concern in that article is not the needless drug imprisonment.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#160
Well, in my "extreme left" locale in Seattle, we re-elected our progressive Democrat Jim McDermott
suffragette
Jun 2012
#123
The "extreme" left isn't actually involved in politics to a significant extent.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#129
Trying to have it both ways again - the all-powerful left actively demoralize yet isn't involved
suffragette
Jun 2012
#144
We lefties in Seattle are the numbers that elect our Democratic US Senators and have kept them in
suffragette
Jun 2012
#151
You started with the ad homs. I'm just glad you realize $$$ isn't needed for GOTV.
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#174
Actually, I stand by the points I made as I made them and not as you're attempting
suffragette
Jun 2012
#178
But See... You Kind Of Make My Point... I'm Supposed To Believe The Queen Of The Blue-Links...
WillyT
Jun 2012
#21
the problem with the links is the fact they are never labelled despite people requesting that she do
dsc
Jun 2012
#33
The real problem is that Prosense links very often are irrelevant, nonresponsive, or misleading.
woo me with science
Jun 2012
#179
I understood perfectly well what GGM is saying. She was clear and on point.
Electric Monk
Jun 2012
#164
I've always been surprised this cat has been allowed to disrupt this board
Change has come
Jun 2012
#83
You do know there are many DU'ers abroad don't you? I guess "disruption" is subjective.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2012
#91
Glenn Greenwald is an American citizen. But you know that but persist in pretending
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#106
"I'll take the constitutional scholar's interpretation over that of a Brazilian asswipe any day."
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#182
Oh my Gosh! And the same articles are also published on Common Dreams, Al Jazeera, & (gasp)
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#72
I used to think of Greenwald as a Iraq War supporter, then his critic/promoters here made him
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#49
It was anti gay propaganda of the worst kind, you claim that is on topic, I do not agree and did
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#183
And all your complaints about that post fall under the responsibility of the DU juries...
SidDithers
Jun 2012
#186
If you would have taken the time to read what Greenwald wrote since January 2009
Major Hogwash
Jun 2012
#51
It does not matter what he wrote. I am discussing the tactics used against him which are often
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#184
And 4-5 years prior to that, he criticized Bush's war and surveillance policies.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#187
Yes. Just like we held Dubya accountable for doing what he said he'd do.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2012
#93
So, the boss is to be held accountable only by those who didn't vote for him?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2012
#113
Indeed. If a person is not happy with Obama doing what he said he would do...
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#97
So let me get this straight. I voted for Obama even though I understood that
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#103
Accountability is also considering someone answerable for their current actions.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#107
I do believe that the civilian death toll from both NATO strikes in Afghanistan and
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#116
Your assertions are debatable. Thus the debate. So love how you use Bush's term unlawful combatants
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#121
actually that's not Bush's term, it's been around for a century used in legal literature, case law
SunsetDreams
Jun 2012
#122
Greenwald has always come across as a scorned, vindictive Libertarian.
great white snark
Jun 2012
#70