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179. Trump is flawed, but Republican voters even vote in mid-terms

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:28 PM

Jun 2016

I don't see such a rosy picture.

Assuming Hillary really does have the nomination locked up due to the Hillary Victory Fund:

* Die-hard Republicans will still vote R down-ticket.
* Disaffected/racist conservatives will vote for Trump and probably straight R all the way.
* Centrist independents will vote for Hillary, but not necessarily for down-ticket Dems.
* Die-hard Dems will vote straight D.
* Disaffected liberals (read: Bernie supporters) will split between capitulation and various forms of protest, including staying home, which deprives down-ticket Democrats of what were easy votes in 2004, 2008, and 2012.

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Folks I think we are at the precipice of a Democratic Landslide [View all] jimlup Jun 2016 OP

I doubt TX, but GA is certainly in play. The Senate will go Dem, with gains in the House. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1

Not a chance in Georgia. Dawgs Jun 2016 #24

election is 5 months away Dawgs.... NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #69

Likely true, but a long way to go. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #83

That's the spirit! IronLionZion Jun 2016 #86

Not a chance Hillary will win in TN fasttense Jun 2016 #96

Same here in UT. MisterFred Jun 2016 #153

I agree, I live in TN also. reflection Jun 2016 #166

Georgia is in play.... BooScout Jun 2016 #103

Obama lost Georgia lancer78 Jun 2016 #136

He lost by 8 and many said that Georgia was in play. Dawgs Jun 2016 #142

It'll be within 5 points. craigmatic Jun 2016 #206

No it won't. nt Dawgs Jun 2016 #210

TX could very well be in play Botany Jun 2016 #64

Yes, but many of the Hispanics are not registered. The DNC has done nothing to help Texas turn Blue Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #70

Republican control of the House and Senate mountain grammy Jun 2016 #163

MG - you nailed it. The DNC is no longer interested in us - just them. EOM erronis Jun 2016 #185

We're going to take them both back. Nitram Jun 2016 #218

as a 14-year Texan, KCDem Jun 2016 #198

+1!!! Ripe for the picking! Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #200

Cruz took Texas and Utah. He may be back soon. Sunlei Jun 2016 #128

A recent poll had Trump up 39-37 over Clinton in Texas NewJeffCT Jun 2016 #162

I think that GA is no longer in play Stevepol Jun 2016 #182

Democratic GA SoS, Cathy Cox, brought in Diebold CottonBear Jun 2016 #223

From your keyboard to god's ears..... nt Bigmack Jun 2016 #2

I sure hope you are correct...nt Stuart G Jun 2016 #3

Hillary represents the future of women's rights. Trump supports the customary role of women. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #4

Lol EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #61

She is the most admired woman in the world. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #74

20x times. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #84

I don't even know what to think about that poll. LiberalAndProud Jun 2016 #145

Both polls depend far more on name recognition than anything else. Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #196

100% KCDem Jun 2016 #199

lol EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #88

I'm sure Trump appreciates your vote of confidence. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #95

He doesn't need it EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #97

No, Dem voters, by over a 3M-vote margin, just nominated the most qualified candidate in history. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #98

And they will pay a price for it. Duval Jun 2016 #124

...And facts be damned! It's as if you didn't even click on the link beastie boy Jun 2016 #101

There's no link? EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #104

Sorry, the link is in Post #84 beastie boy Jun 2016 #108

ah EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #112

She is #1 on Gallup's list and #3 on YouGov's list. beastie boy Jun 2016 #118

So Gallup is biased? Ineeda Jun 2016 #107

you've missed the point, unsurprisingly EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #137

There's still a chance Mrs. Clinton will pick Senator Sanders as VP. If you're really for Sanders, Sunlei Jun 2016 #132

BS EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #139

actually I only donated to Sanders but I wouldn't mind either of them as President. Sunlei Jun 2016 #144

Like I said EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #146

neither do I, you should have seen some of the messages I sent to Obama & couple of my notes, Sunlei Jun 2016 #155

Well that would be a disaster quakerboy Jun 2016 #192

Right after Angelina Jolie and Queen Elizabeth. No quibbling. ancianita Jun 2016 #165

You can stow that Darb Jun 2016 #211

It's not whining EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #219

If you say so. Darb Jun 2016 #221

Must have been a narrow pool of candidates avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #167

Nope. The "pool" was all women in the world. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #169

More like "woman in the world most admired by Americans", which isn't the same thing Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #168

" She is the most admired woman in the world." <<< only Americans voted in that poll AntiBank Jun 2016 #193

Wtf greiner3 Jun 2016 #197

Her supporters are in for a big suprise if she wins the White House. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #133

"Culturally imposed economic reliance on men"? PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #175

I predict you are as wrong as wrong can be. Time will tell. yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #5

“There’ll come a time when the love of country Hortensis Jun 2016 #20

First I heard that one - thanks! 66 dmhlt Jun 2016 #77

Wow! I'm gobsmacked! smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #183

Yes, first time I've heard THAT from a pub leader. Hortensis Jun 2016 #187

48 state win, then we'll crush their resistance ileus Jun 2016 #6

There was no possible way raygun could win either libtodeath Jun 2016 #18

Raygun was a 2 - term CA governor. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #100

Who are the "they" you're talking about, tho, Ileus? Hortensis Jun 2016 #22

We will out populate them right where they live. ileus Jun 2016 #63

Yes, the old-style conservatives are dying off. Hortensis Jun 2016 #75

I wouldn't count on more than 43 jmowreader Jun 2016 #156

Just think! All the war and fracking and increased H-1B visas and cluster bombs and bloody djean111 Jun 2016 #7

. Doctor_J Jun 2016 #10

What does this post mean? Democat Jun 2016 #43

I think the definition of "Democrat" has changed considerably. djean111 Jun 2016 #53

No Democrat would....a DINO on the other hand.... SammyWinstonJack Jun 2016 #224

+1 n/t Alkene Jun 2016 #45

The DNC is so incredibly short sighted and transparently corrupt. LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #65

I agree that somehow Rs will create a Trump replacement plan... afertal Jun 2016 #151

At my polling place in CA today I heard LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #170

So why are you going to support her then? arely staircase Jun 2016 #123

With the Reps in free fall randr Jun 2016 #8

for someone who pulls mainly from ex-Republicans, yes 0rganism Jun 2016 #106

I hope so... Wounded Bear Jun 2016 #9

Well, if it's Hillary Clinton, you can either support the Dem candidate, or you can Gene Debs Jun 2016 #29

Your opinion is duly noted... Wounded Bear Jun 2016 #41

I will support the Dem candidate, and future liberal actions. Democat Jun 2016 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author IDemo Jun 2016 #11

But only because a large portion of the electorate jimlup Jun 2016 #12

You really think so? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #21

Most of Trump's coverage is on cable. joshcryer Jun 2016 #30

And this isn't 1980. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #39

Cable news gets like 5 million viewers being GENEROUS. joshcryer Jun 2016 #57

Do you really believe that..... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #33

Pretty picture. Darb Jun 2016 #212

I think you mean a Hillary landslide. And even that is in doubt Doctor_J Jun 2016 #13

what are you smoking? hobbit709 Jun 2016 #14

The primary wounds run deep and are not likely to heal easily, if ever. Indeed, it may birth... ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #15

It may, indeed! Duval Jun 2016 #129

LMAO leftofcool Jun 2016 #178

53 % Hill, 37 % Bigot and 10% Johnson sarcasmo Jun 2016 #16

Johnson won't get 10%, and Stein will get more votes than he. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #72

Yes on your first statement. No on the second one. TheFarseer Jun 2016 #116

Greens will get far more votes than in '12,... HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #126

Gary Johnson? Orrex Jun 2016 #147

I think so too mcar Jun 2016 #17

Your candidate is also deeply flawed alarimer Jun 2016 #19

The Senate is Already Ours Norman Conch Quest Jun 2016 #23

Wow. Must be more of that Clinton Meth. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #73

! Alex4Martinez Jun 2016 #149

Not a very bright comment. How do you figure the senate is already ours? EV_Ares Jun 2016 #92

It's spelled T-R-U-M-P Norman Conch Quest Jun 2016 #109

Will be good if you are right but you have to look at Clinton's high negative #s as well & the fact EV_Ares Jun 2016 #114

They'll still turn out to vote down-ticket. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #135

Hillary's unfavorables are UP AGAIN dorkzilla Jun 2016 #25

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #32

That is a real eye-opener. Duval Jun 2016 #134

If Trump is the nominee ... Beakybird Jun 2016 #26

yes.. jimlup Jun 2016 #204

You say Trump will lose because he's a deeply flawed candidate. I can only assume you're predicting Gene Debs Jun 2016 #27

I think if Clinton is the nominee we are in for a loss Marrah_G Jun 2016 #28

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #34

I would like to tell you what I think of you and your post Marrah_G Jun 2016 #50

You are putting down Democrats in a thread about Democratic victory Democat Jun 2016 #52

You should be ashamed of making these accusations Marrah_G Jun 2016 #55

Who's going to 'get banned' now? AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #80

Second DUer you have talked about banning in this thread Omaha Steve Jun 2016 #54

Thank you Steve Marrah_G Jun 2016 #56

8 now, two in this thread PDittie Jun 2016 #62

And yet no consequences. SMH Marrah_G Jun 2016 #68

He's been FFR'd dorkzilla Jun 2016 #93

Puuuulease. Darb Jun 2016 #213

That's very optimistic of you. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #31

+1 nt Javaman Jun 2016 #37

Dumbya? Elected? KamaAina Jun 2016 #158

It's OK. 2004 was a long time ago. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #160

Okay, granted he wasn't elected Wednesdays Jun 2016 #208

Look at the pro-Trump trolls on this thread Democat Jun 2016 #35

Making a reasoned observation is not the same as hoping. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #148

This assumes that the party establishment even wants such a result nxylas Jun 2016 #36

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #38

The Congressional goppers probably think obstructionism has worked for them. lpbk2713 Jun 2016 #40

I wish you were right SmittynMo Jun 2016 #42

Both candidates are equally flawed. Clinton's only possible saving grace NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #44

"Clinton's only possible saving grace" Democat Jun 2016 #51

Clinton is NOT the Democratic Party. She is the favored candidate of many but the idea that there is mikehiggins Jun 2016 #66

What are you smoking? Darb Jun 2016 #214

No, not carrying Texas PDittie Jun 2016 #47

I am not sold on a DEM landslide. bigwillq Jun 2016 #48

Candidates don't matter - the math is overwhelmingly against them underpants Jun 2016 #49

As for the Senate PDittie Jun 2016 #58

Clinton supporters are dreaming Robbins Jun 2016 #59

Lol EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #60

Repeating the same meme doesn't make your POV more convincing. n/t Ineeda Jun 2016 #122

I totally disagree. James48 Jun 2016 #67

Don't count your chickens before they hatch left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #71

Exactly LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #81

as long as trump remains...100% asssured beachbum bob Jun 2016 #76

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #138

could someone with a better memory than me recall what the majority NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #78

It ain't happening in NEBRASKA Omaha Steve Jun 2016 #79

I think we're at the precipice of an apathy landslide.......... marmar Jun 2016 #82

Except, if its Trump-HRC, the polls don't show it... modestybl Jun 2016 #85

Trump is going down! Pork Chop knows where the bodies are buried... pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #87

This is the beginning of June. Do you realize how much time there is between now & the election in EV_Ares Jun 2016 #89

I think the biggest mistake would be to start to think like this SheenaR Jun 2016 #90

You do realize that midterms usually go to the rateyes Jun 2016 #91

Sadly, no more landslides . . . Gamecock Lefty Jun 2016 #94

If we turn out, there's no reason it shouldn't be eissa Jun 2016 #99

Eh. MisterFred Jun 2016 #150

IF he won shanti Jun 2016 #186

yes yes yes!!!! take the senate and house! Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #102

I don't think so. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #105

I don't think so. Hillary is deeply flawed as well. Oneironaut Jun 2016 #110

Get out of the Hillary camp bubble. Arazi Jun 2016 #111

More like a cave-in. Fly by night Jun 2016 #113

The Sewnate will turn blue this time, no doubt about it. House not so certain, but can happen. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #115

We will not elect a guy running a fake university TheFarseer Jun 2016 #117

All those things you cite would be an issue with anybody else. Have you noticed that Gene Debs Jun 2016 #177

I see your point but TheFarseer Jun 2016 #194

But consider this: a large swath of Democratic voters are not feeling motivated to vote Gene Debs Jun 2016 #205

I never predict the outcome until the day after the election struggle4progress Jun 2016 #119

I see what you did there. Rex Jun 2016 #140

I think we're on the precipice of one of the ugliest presidential races in US history. herding cats Jun 2016 #120

I concur Martin Eden Jun 2016 #222

I share your optimism. Maybe NOW Ted Nuggets will finally LEAVE THE COUNTRY Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #121

Relax, Hillary's got this, nothing to worry about Fumesucker Jun 2016 #125

You have been awarded 100 internet points for correctly mocking the use of "bespoke." NT MisterFred Jun 2016 #152

The quiet Republicans will probably trot out, Cruz, Jeb! or Rubio from their convention 'process' Sunlei Jun 2016 #127

The signs are right rock Jun 2016 #131

Trump is imploding like the rich, super privileged, racist asshole that he is. Rex Jun 2016 #141

My prediction: Hillary 53%, Trump 45% Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #143

I think you may be right reign88 Jun 2016 #154

time for a Progressive Party! kaliamanita Jun 2016 #157

speaking of deeply flawed candidates ellennelle Jun 2016 #159

If you think it will be a landslide NewJeffCT Jun 2016 #161

Can't afford to be complacent. GotV for down-ticket Senate (SCOTUS), House, State reps, Govs, ... nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #164

I wish I had democrats to vote for in PA fbc Jun 2016 #171

Scott Adams disagrees Califonz Jun 2016 #172

It's looking like even a fucking ham sandwhich could defeat Trump in a landslide. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #173

hate to break the bad new but there will be 4 parties running in the general. Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #174

Stein and Johnson getting 1% each. Both epic losers leftofcool Jun 2016 #180

No time to be complacent... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #176

Trump is flawed, but Republican voters even vote in mid-terms spud_demon Jun 2016 #179

i will support the nominee in the ge. allan01 Jun 2016 #181

The problem is that we have an over-abundance of smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #184

Or we would have been if Bernie had been the nominee. forest444 Jun 2016 #188

This thread is getting republicans very upset. Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #189

The money hasn't even started pouring in yet elljay Jun 2016 #190

You got your houses of Congress mixed up. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #191

This is definitely not the time for arrogance. LS_Editor Jun 2016 #195

Bad karma abounds..... pipoman Jun 2016 #201

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Colors Jun 2016 #202

I agree GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #203

Not with Hillary on the ticket. It'll be closer than Obama's 2. If I had o guess I'd say craigmatic Jun 2016 #207

Somehow, I don't think so. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #209

Agreed. It will be epic. Darb Jun 2016 #215

Do you realize the disturbing ambiguity of your title? Helen Borg Jun 2016 #216

I agree, but only if we get out the vote. Nitram Jun 2016 #217

I hope so. I certainly wouldn't count on it. bloom Jun 2016 #220