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mythology

(9,527 posts)
9. Except Turner, his idiot dad and the asshat judge have all been widely condemned
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 09:39 PM
Jun 2016

The article is written from an agenda that assumes most if not all men are rapists.

The most recent research I'm aware of (a study of two U.S. universities) found that about 10% of men had raped. And while yes that is about 10% too high, it also means that in discussing rape the author shouldn't accuse most of us from being similar to Turner.

Trying to link Turner claiming it was consensual to a larger point about rape being a cultural norm is a little silly in my opinion. He was trying to convince a jury that he wasn't a rapist. What exactly was he supposed to say? "Yes I raped her, but don't convict me anyway." The fact that he ran when confronted is a pretty good indicator that he knew what he was doing was wrong. The fact that the two guys chased him down indicates they didn't participate in rape culture.

The author isn't just using too broad of a brush, she's openly letting her biases let her conclusion and then claiming the evidence supports it, rather than looking at the evidence and then forming a conclusion.

Do we as a society have a long way to go in terms of dealing with rape? Absolutely. But we have also come a long way. The fact that this case and it's poor resolution has generated such an outcry is in fact evidence of that. We as a society do recognize as a whole that rape is wrong, it's part of why rapists have to come up with so many "justifications". It's not like a thief goes out of their way to justify why they are stealing.

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Thread title FAIL. dchill Jun 2016 #1
Some men, present company included, do condemn him. KamaAina Jun 2016 #4
there are probably very few parents hfojvt Jun 2016 #12
I don't think not wanting his son to go to jail makes him a horrible person. Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #21
Yes - what Dan A. Turner wrote makes him a horrible person. bloom Jun 2016 #27
THEY DON'T SEE IT AS RAPE. lapislzi Jun 2016 #43
+100. nt raccoon Jun 2016 #52
The dad, while unsensitive, crass, and misguided, is at least understandable Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #45
Every man I've met, who was familiar with the case, condemned him. Xithras Jun 2016 #49
I'm a woman and I agree with you. Quantess Jun 2016 #18
Your historical and consistent oppression by the entrenched matriarchy is noted and pitied. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #36
I'm a guy and I think Turner got off light. Initech Jun 2016 #2
The author is painting 'men' with a pretty broad brush there... PatrickforO Jun 2016 #3
Totally Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #22
Brock also made a clueless statement bloom Jun 2016 #28
People say stupid stuff online all the time... Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #5
Horseshit. Maybe the judge was a rapist. I'm a man and think he got off too light. NightWatcher Jun 2016 #6
Any man that sees himself in a male teen that raped an unconscious female needs therapy. Rex Jun 2016 #7
Alas, rape culture is alive and well throughout the world FrodosPet Jun 2016 #8
Except Turner, his idiot dad and the asshat judge have all been widely condemned mythology Jun 2016 #9
"10% of men had raped"?! Do you have a link, because that sounds like complete bull. Kentonio Jun 2016 #23
Well, I Can Assure You I'm In The Other 90 ProfessorGAC Jun 2016 #24
Indeed. Kentonio Jun 2016 #34
It sounds shockingly high, and it may mean 10% of adult men, but 30% of women have been victims Bucky Jun 2016 #33
30% of women have not been victims of rape, where are you getting this figure from?! Kentonio Jun 2016 #35
You're right. I was thinking about the number of college women raped Bucky Jun 2016 #39
Horrible, horrible numbers. Kentonio Jun 2016 #42
I saw a stat where half of male college athletes had committed sexual assault. bloom Jun 2016 #30
Of course the Rethugs don't condemn him.... harrose Jun 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author mdbl Jun 2016 #20
Really because I don't see myself at all in Brock Turner. dilby Jun 2016 #11
I condemn the shit out that litte bastard. nt TeamPooka Jun 2016 #13
The childhood friend she referenced was a woman ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #14
She didn't assume melman Jun 2016 #15
I honestly don't know ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #16
I call BS Skittles Jun 2016 #17
I was, sounds terrible, but i wanted to punch the punk in the face. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #31
Yeah, but that kind of article won't generate the clicks. Dr. Strange Jun 2016 #56
When I saw Turner Sr's response mdbl Jun 2016 #19
Bullshit. (n/t) Iggo Jun 2016 #25
So men see themselves as entitled rapists? Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #26
i do not agree in this broad based statement. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #29
I don't think most men would rape someone like that. Quantess Jun 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author bloom Jun 2016 #37
Surely no men here on DU have refused to condemn that rapist? Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #38
This is a men's bashing thread & I will not participate. GOLGO 13 Jun 2016 #40
Did the two men who stopped the assault and restrained the rapist ... 11 Bravo Jun 2016 #41
This man fucking condemns him! NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #44
I don't, and he's a big bag of precious, priveleged shit, along with Daddy and the judge hatrack Jun 2016 #46
This OP is a load of man-bashing crap. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #47
Try reading the whole article. That's not what it says at all. lapislzi Jun 2016 #50
As I'm not particularly interested in your "feelings" about men. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #51
Okay, okay, she should have said "some men". KamaAina Jun 2016 #48
It's a reasonable assumption considering the title... NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #54
The kid should have gotten a much more severe sentence, and the judge should lose his job. Paladin Jun 2016 #55
as a man, I wish I would have caught him onethatcares Jun 2016 #57
Out of all the fantasies I ever harbored I can honestly say none included sex with someone... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #58
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