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In reply to the discussion: Stipulating Trump is crazy, ok. But am I the only one who [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)2. Here's the thing...
This was the line taken by Katrina Pierson, as a sort of "let's look at the words" approach.
"...who is, we believe, Mexican"
Is it racist to "believe someone is Mexican"? Well, no, it's not. I believe quite a few people are Mexicans. I believe a good number of people are Canadians, New Yorkers, and so on.
It's the context that matters.
This case wasn't filed last year - it's been going on since 2010 - and the rulings on preliminary motions were made long before anyone knew that Trump would be kicking off a campaign based on calling Mexicans names.
There is, simply put, no conceivable nor chronologically-possible connection between any supposed animus inspired by Trump's remarks about Mexicans, and the relevant pre-trial rulings made by this judge - most of which, incidentally, were in Trump's favor. If one goes by a count of "motions granted / motions denied", Trump's side has actually had more rulings in its favor.
I get what you are saying, and so before you are roundly thrashed for appearing to stand against the tide, even if you view this thing in the most favorable possible light cast on Trump's point of view, it is more a statement of his personal paranoia than having a conceivable connection to any factual support (i.e. that the judge has been acting in anger inspired by Trump's politics).
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Do you have a link, what race is he? I tried to look up his parents but couldn't find their race.
braddy
Jun 2016
#5
It names a country, but not his race. Mexico is a country of racial diversity, it isn't a race.
braddy
Jun 2016
#15
You are right...can't seem to find the actual race of the judge's parents
Laura PourMeADrink
Jun 2016
#25
We do know that the media is determined to call it race though, this Orwellian new America, is
braddy
Jun 2016
#26
I hear you. May also be that he is inciting and fueling racist tendencies
Laura PourMeADrink
Jun 2016
#10
Agree - but he just doesn't strike me as a deep and deliberative enough thinker
Laura PourMeADrink
Jun 2016
#11
And all this is AFTER Curiel did Trump a huge favor by moving the case to after the election
Bucky
Jun 2016
#8
Thanks B. You've made a very good argument and I appreciate it. The whole
Laura PourMeADrink
Jun 2016
#16
thanks. of course. guess it just bothers me that everyone uses the term
Laura PourMeADrink
Jun 2016
#19
Think his world view is much more binary. Those with me (love them) and those
Laura PourMeADrink
Jun 2016
#20
I'm a stickler for words too and I think his comments were bigoted, prejudiced, and racist. nt
TeamPooka
Jun 2016
#23
Racists hear 'words' that send them into certain reflexive states like anger or fear.
Rex
Jun 2016
#24
So, Trump understands this to the fullest and is using it to the fullest. What do
Laura PourMeADrink
Jun 2016
#27