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jberryhill

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2. Here's the thing...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:26 PM
Jun 2016

This was the line taken by Katrina Pierson, as a sort of "let's look at the words" approach.

"...who is, we believe, Mexican"

Is it racist to "believe someone is Mexican"? Well, no, it's not. I believe quite a few people are Mexicans. I believe a good number of people are Canadians, New Yorkers, and so on.

It's the context that matters.

This case wasn't filed last year - it's been going on since 2010 - and the rulings on preliminary motions were made long before anyone knew that Trump would be kicking off a campaign based on calling Mexicans names.

There is, simply put, no conceivable nor chronologically-possible connection between any supposed animus inspired by Trump's remarks about Mexicans, and the relevant pre-trial rulings made by this judge - most of which, incidentally, were in Trump's favor. If one goes by a count of "motions granted / motions denied", Trump's side has actually had more rulings in its favor.

I get what you are saying, and so before you are roundly thrashed for appearing to stand against the tide, even if you view this thing in the most favorable possible light cast on Trump's point of view, it is more a statement of his personal paranoia than having a conceivable connection to any factual support (i.e. that the judge has been acting in anger inspired by Trump's politics).

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Has any source told us what race the judge is yet? braddy Jun 2016 #1
Yes. So is that his slime? Grasping at straws to explain why Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #4
Do you have a link, what race is he? I tried to look up his parents but couldn't find their race. braddy Jun 2016 #5
link Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #13
It names a country, but not his race. Mexico is a country of racial diversity, it isn't a race. braddy Jun 2016 #15
You are right...can't seem to find the actual race of the judge's parents Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #25
We do know that the media is determined to call it race though, this Orwellian new America, is braddy Jun 2016 #26
Here's the thing... jberryhill Jun 2016 #2
I hear you. May also be that he is inciting and fueling racist tendencies Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #10
I'm still not sure if he actually believes in the crap he's spewing Jennylynn Jun 2016 #3
Agree - but he just doesn't strike me as a deep and deliberative enough thinker Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #11
Idk. What's to plan, really? Jennylynn Jun 2016 #17
Here's the thing ... Straw Man Jun 2016 #6
You're not crazy, but you're too generous. Let's think about what Trump said... Bucky Jun 2016 #7
And all this is AFTER Curiel did Trump a huge favor by moving the case to after the election Bucky Jun 2016 #8
Thanks B. You've made a very good argument and I appreciate it. The whole Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #16
+1,000 malaise Jun 2016 #35
His comments were bigoted Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #9
Interesting...never knew the difference between those two. Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #12
Well "Mexican" is not a race Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #14
thanks. of course. guess it just bothers me that everyone uses the term Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #19
Sorta, but not really. Remember that race is a social construct Bucky Jun 2016 #21
I agree Albertoo Jun 2016 #18
Think his world view is much more binary. Those with me (love them) and those Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #20
a disciplined enough thinker to plan this all out? Are you joking? Albertoo Jun 2016 #33
Agree. 840high Jun 2016 #32
Trump is an opportunistic bigot, period. qdouble Jun 2016 #22
I'm a stickler for words too and I think his comments were bigoted, prejudiced, and racist. nt TeamPooka Jun 2016 #23
Racists hear 'words' that send them into certain reflexive states like anger or fear. Rex Jun 2016 #24
So, Trump understands this to the fullest and is using it to the fullest. What do Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #27
Yes which in my opinion means using racism or ageism or disability Rex Jun 2016 #29
Racist sexist bigoted MFM008 Jun 2016 #28
I understood Trump to say that because the judge is "a Mexican" he cannot Tal Vez Jun 2016 #30
Yes, you are the only one. shenmue Jun 2016 #31
... Crepuscular Jun 2016 #34
oy Bucky Jun 2016 #36
:) Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #37
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