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SecularMotion

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Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:40 AM Jun 2016

What's 'good cause' to carry a concealed gun? [View all]

In California, where gun-control laws are among the country's most restrictive, local concealed-carry ordinances have survived a major challenge in a case that could make its way to the Supreme Court, potentially becoming one of the first major gun cases heard by the high court since District of Columbia v. Heller in 2008.

The 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 7 to 4 on Thursday that municipal authorities can oblige gun owners to obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons. In the majority opinion, Judge William Fletcher wrote that the Second Amendment "does not preserve or protect a right of a member of the general public to carry concealed firearms in public."

The case saw gun owners in San Diego and Yolo counties, backed by the California National Rifle and Pistol Association, contesting denials of their applications for concealed-carry permits, which require the applicant to demonstrate "good cause" for their weapons, beyond general self-defense. The plaintiffs sought to have the requirement struck down as unconstitutional.

In a 2010 affidavit filed by the manager of the sheriff's licensing office in San Diego, the office said the application of the lead plaintiff had been denied because he had not provided documentation proving that he had "good cause," perhaps the most difficult of California's permit requirements. Applicants must also complete a training course and be "of good moral character."

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2016/0610/What-s-good-cause-to-carry-a-concealed-gun
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It is not necessary to present 'good cause' to exercise a right GreydeeThos Jun 2016 #1
I tend to concur with the court that carrying a concealed weapon isn't a right. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #2
Tell that to women who want to get an abortion Major Nikon Jun 2016 #3
Which is why all rights must be defended hack89 Jun 2016 #9
There is no right to carry a gun around everywhere Major Nikon Jun 2016 #10
We are heading in that direction hack89 Jun 2016 #11
Probably not since the ammosexual hero, Scalia is gone Major Nikon Jun 2016 #12
Here is the problem with that "analysis" hack89 Jun 2016 #23
So the gun control movement peaked and the pendulum swung the other way Major Nikon Jun 2016 #26
All states including blue states expanded gun rights hack89 Jun 2016 #33
"No evidence" Major Nikon Jun 2016 #37
It goes up and it goes down. What is your point? hack89 Jun 2016 #38
So you went from "no evidence" to it "swings in both directions" Major Nikon Jun 2016 #41
A steady state for 10 years is not evidence of a sea change in support for gun control hack89 Jun 2016 #42
The pendulum swinging will require Americans to prioritize gun control and they don't aikoaiko Jun 2016 #58
No, it is not "a natural extension" of Heller OldRedneck Jun 2016 #16
Peruta will ultimately be decided by the SC within the context of self defense hack89 Jun 2016 #22
Concealed carry is not a right. baldguy Jun 2016 #4
Self defense is hack89 Jun 2016 #5
Not in the 2nd amendment. Nor anywhere else Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #28
Heller is predicated on the right to self defense hack89 Jun 2016 #35
Begs the question sarisataka Jun 2016 #44
I have a right to take a shit - a biological imperative, you might say. baldguy Jun 2016 #49
Self defense was at the core of Heller hack89 Jun 2016 #51
Only one state views CC as a "right" that I know of. roamer65 Jun 2016 #53
That is the law of the state I live in. former9thward Jun 2016 #59
You need to read Scalia's opinion in Heller v. DC OldRedneck Jun 2016 #15
I still think that Scalia's opinion in Heller was a gun control victory Recursion Jun 2016 #18
Yes and no. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #57
Quite right. Jerry442 Jun 2016 #20
I agree with your overall point GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #34
insecure, self-doubt, unstable, immature, volatile? DrDan Jun 2016 #6
You left out stupid, paranoid, and otherwise mentally ill Major Nikon Jun 2016 #21
I guess you like to project former9thward Jun 2016 #60
A clever repackaging of the worn out, I'm rubber, you're glue line! Major Nikon Jun 2016 #62
So we can surmise you carry a gatling gun! whistler162 Jun 2016 #24
not afraid to walk in public without a gun DrDan Jun 2016 #36
Suppose you want to practice balancing a pistol on top of your head rock Jun 2016 #7
living in or regularly travelling to a high crime area Amishman Jun 2016 #8
Not good enough for many here nt 7962 Jun 2016 #13
and too loose for others here Amishman Jun 2016 #47
good point 7962 Jun 2016 #48
What a crock. hunter Jun 2016 #50
Living in "west" during the 1800s. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #14
The John Wayne west of the 1800s Major Nikon Jun 2016 #27
Many towns had strict gun control. Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #30
Strict controls Igel Jun 2016 #40
Law enforcement generally considers being white and UMC reason enough Recursion Jun 2016 #17
In California "good cause" is Angel Martin Jun 2016 #19
If you are female and going to Stanford. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2016 #25
Fear. Iggo Jun 2016 #29
I do not think concealed carry GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #31
The truth won't work -- need something to make me feel powerful; like george zimmerman I need a Hoyt Jun 2016 #32
Is that the case for all carriers? Marengo Jun 2016 #55
Pretty much. There might be a few that have a legitimate need for a gun, but hey aren't gun fancier Hoyt Jun 2016 #56
Being a cowardly, dickless buffoon who is afraid of his own shadow, and needs to possess Aristus Jun 2016 #39
Per SOP, sarisataka Jun 2016 #43
Because if confronted with violence, linuxman Jun 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Jun 2016 #46
Whatever it is, it's not for the county sheriff to decide. Brickbat Jun 2016 #52
Your life should always be reason enough for a CC permit. ileus Jun 2016 #54
A Zombie apocalypse. nt TeamPooka Jun 2016 #61
With all the cops now days shooting citizens, I'm not sure if we shouldn't B Calm Jun 2016 #63
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