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Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 01:31 PM Jun 2012

RANT: Did you hear that faint creak? It was America's problems passing the tipping point. [View all]

Between the louder crashes of masonry falling from the ceiling I just heard a little...well, like a little creak. Almost missed it, too. That worried me more than anything. I don't care about the roof caving in but that sound means the foundation is going.

House representatives have two year terms. Senators have 6 year terms. The President has 4 year terms. And they're all staggered.

Even then, I think they can get it together enough to put a new roof on the house or a new deck in back or drop some bombs on the bad folks down the block. If they really had to, they could probably do it. I'd like to think so, anyway.

But I don't think with the way America has gotten they're gonna get their shit together enough to restore America to something healthier, something free or freer of corruption and graft. I don't think they have it in them.

The foundation is going, folks. This isn't about Obama or House reps or Senators and it's not even about Democrats or Republicans or third parties. The foundation is going and the people who we need to be concentrating on bringing us out of this mess are, most of them, already bought up by corporate, banking or other industrial interests and whose view of the world is limited in the extreme. I'm coming to terms with the realization that at least two of the three branches of government might have entered a permanently failed state. An unrecoverable dysfunction.

Like the Soviet Union was, when I was growing up. Corruption, corruption, corruption and a gestapo-style state-police to enforce it all.

We no-longer have the luxury of living in the "My Children Will Fix It" world, either. I'm almost 40. This shit is starting to snowball and the wheels are going to come off in my lifetime and probably in your lifetime, too. With the banking meltdowns here and in Europe you could arguably make the case that they already have.

I am not real excited by the prospect that the rest of my natural life will be filled with continuous wars, banking calamities, struggling to afford good healthcare (even in the good times), watching my inalienable Constitutional Rights abridged or "reinterpreted" away, entirely. Partisan political catamites spin what they can but there are good people, or at least people with some thread of decency in them, on both sides of the aisle.

But I don't think there's enough of them anymore, even if you gathered them all up regardless of party affiliation. My choice of futures as a middle-class American are rapidly slimming down to "Would you like to be slapped hard forty times in the face or be knocked out from a single blow?"

PB

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That creak is the tipping point to the fascist state, PDJane Jun 2012 #1
Technically, it almost always probably was. But there was a time you could... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #5
If we aren't exceptional why do we get to use up so much more resources per capita than others? dkf Jun 2012 #11
I keep getting hammered when I point that out. PDJane Jun 2012 #13
Are pigs exceptional just because they are, well, pigs? n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #22
And we are the pigs? Lol. dkf Jun 2012 #27
Thought you might like that one <G> n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #45
Not for long. That is not going to last. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #43
Buy vintage or used - I will NOT pay for clothes Made in China adigal Jun 2012 #57
Excellent analysis MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #2
2000 was the tipping point. ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #9
I see two different dates airplaneman Jun 2012 #14
It maybe can be fixed after some period of time, but it's what's going to... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #12
i think the development of fascism in Italy is a better analogy. sudopod Jun 2012 #29
But even Germany got fixed Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #41
Fixed how? Plucketeer Jun 2012 #53
Perhaps we should look to the Scandanavian countries for some guidance MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #55
Wish I could give you a good argument. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #3
It's a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. Zalatix Jun 2012 #4
"...and The Road for everyone else." (Shudder) That's a... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #21
Most people don't think it's THAT bad. Zalatix Jun 2012 #30
barbara satan bush and her eugenics sickness coming to roost. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2012 #36
Which is why President Obama said we're entering into an era of social Darwinism. Zalatix Jun 2012 #48
I feel it's like a run-away train. Alexander Cockburn wrote an article "So Who's the FAscist Here?" rhett o rick Jun 2012 #6
"How can we get a corrupt Congress to reform itself?" I don't think it can. I think we've... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #33
I am afraid I agree. We have crossed the line. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #34
People hate it when you mention mick063 Jun 2012 #7
agree Mick oldhippydude Jun 2012 #15
I agree, plez see post 6. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #35
Apt in some respects, not in others kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #40
your choices ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #8
I too believe that we have crossed the Rubicon me b zola Jun 2012 #10
That's similiar to what I was trying to say here......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #16
And there's the rub: Even if you could get fair elections, you still... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #58
What urgently needs to be done is to liquidate the empire Wolf Frankula Jun 2012 #17
I have been hearing that creak ever since the 2002passage of the Authorization to Use Military Force patrice Jun 2012 #18
I agree that it's too late even for reforms......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #19
Nobody is going to do that........ Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2012 #24
Too bad then........... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #20
As long as we keep increasing military spending ...everything will be fine. L0oniX Jun 2012 #23
Please. You're forgetting tax cuts for the rich, er, job GODS. nt valerief Jun 2012 #26
I keep saying we're the new USSR. We're the USSA. nt valerief Jun 2012 #25
Did you see the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" Dont call me Shirley Jun 2012 #38
The VP in the movie screams "Cheney". Odin2005 Jun 2012 #62
I heard it a few years ago. caseymoz Jun 2012 #28
Yes kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #32
Of course progressives arent the problem but the centrists would tell you different. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #39
Centrists are ... kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #46
The Third Way apologists are not "centrists." woo me with science Jun 2012 #51
I completely agree. However, it's the centrists that fight for status quo rhett o rick Jun 2012 #52
Problems are mounting faster than we can tackle them CanonRay Jun 2012 #54
People are just hearing this "creak" now? kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #31
Bush I was the tipping point (and Clinton pushed us farther) FarCenter Jun 2012 #37
I wish you were wrong.. 99Forever Jun 2012 #44
I thought that point was passed long ago stupidicus Jun 2012 #47
You make your point really well. bleever Jun 2012 #49
Sadly,....I agree /nt Dragonfli Jun 2012 #50
This is a hard thread to read but so damn important I carefully read every post riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #56
There is always someone saying this treestar Jun 2012 #59
At what point felix_numinous Jun 2012 #60
We have been kicking the can down the road for over 30 years Odin2005 Jun 2012 #61
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