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15. I will never in a million years understand why many progressives

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:41 AM

Jun 2016

continue to unwaveringly defend radical Islam, possibly the most regressive religion on the planet.

This may not turn out to be Islamic terrorism but the fact that it is dismissed by some progressives as a possibility right off the bat is mind-boggling.

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There is no jihadist on this planet [View all] malaise Jun 2016 OP

During Ramadan of all times BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #1

They know this is an RW attack malaise Jun 2016 #3

Be careful, out on that limb. Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #26

Sure: most Islamist radical groups are profoundly right-wing. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #42

Thank you. liberalnarb Jun 2016 #101

He was a registered democrat Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #57

He was a fugging gay-hating scumbag malaise Jun 2016 #63

That was just "deep cover" NT 1939 Jun 2016 #130

didn't ISIS threaten escalated violence during Ramadan? Amishman Jun 2016 #7

They can threaten BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #11

ISIS called for increased attacks during Ramadan. nt Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #25

And Trump has stoked his own supporters BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #33

I've never heard Trump speak out against LGBT. I've never heard Trump call for increased violent Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #90

"I've never heard Trump call for increased violent attacks." BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #91

This is terrorism. Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #92

I'm not saying it's not terrorism BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #96

Sure, they all should, but in this particular instance, this particular gunman Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #100

"this particular gunman had 'sworn' allegiance to ISIS." BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #104

It's been on CNN Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #105

CNN has been coming back to that angle on and off all morning BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #114

I mean, i know your point, but...you brought up the idea of conveluting a story. Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #115

It does have to do with it BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #117

actually ISIS is telling all to attack during Ramadan specifically AntiBank Jun 2016 #125

Yet this guy BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #128

I posited no theory, I simply showed your assertion was incorrect nt AntiBank Jun 2016 #129

You only showed a lack of awareness of what the term "Jihad" is supposed to mean in Islam. BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #131

no, you did not even use "jihad" in your post, and I am well aware of its multiple meanings and AntiBank Jun 2016 #132

I was replying to the OP BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #133

look what up? jihad (struggle)? I already know its multiple permutations and multiple ways AntiBank Jun 2016 #134

That feeling is mutual in terms of your lecturing post. BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #135

Oh and fugg the lone wolf malaise Jun 2016 #2

I just hope the FBI now takes warnings more seriously yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #126

It's too early to speculate on anything. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2016 #4

Yes, the USA media and the British media are posting different reports mucifer Jun 2016 #5

The FBI said the individual may have leanings towards radical islam ram2008 Jun 2016 #6

I disagree. I think the shooter was another radical Islamic terrorist. Oneironaut Jun 2016 #8

and after the Boston marathon attack rollin74 Jun 2016 #9

And after McVeigh it HAD to be a Muslim n/t malaise Jun 2016 #13

McVeigh had a totally different style of attack, different style target, and different background. Oneironaut Jun 2016 #83

Must of had different news in my area One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #109

We shouldn't project our fears and hatreds onto terrifying unknowns Bucky Jun 2016 #24

Reported here that the suspect's father apcalc Jun 2016 #80

I see you. Darb Jun 2016 #121

k Oneironaut Jun 2016 #123

Why not? melman Jun 2016 #10

That's not an assertion you can support. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #12

Really? Ms. Yertle Jun 2016 #14

I will never in a million years understand why many progressives EL34x4 Jun 2016 #15

I've been accused of defending Islam before Kentonio Jun 2016 #20

Some people want things to be certain things The2ndWheel Jun 2016 #21

Who is defending "radical Islam?" Where? pangaia Jun 2016 #28

Malaise, philososlayer, I'm sure mwrguy is somewhere clucking about how great burqas are. name not needed Jun 2016 #29

Since you're dragging my name into it, here is where I lay MY blame philosslayer Jun 2016 #31

Typical. It's always Trump's fault, never the hadji with the rifle and the suicide vest. name not needed Jun 2016 #32

This person is just another warrior in Trumps army philosslayer Jun 2016 #37

Wow GummyBearz Jun 2016 #95

True, your name is not needed, tavernier Jun 2016 #106

Yeah, and that makes absolutely no logical sense. n/t Humanist_Activist Jun 2016 #36

No - I am not defending jihadists malaise Jun 2016 #77

I see what you are saying but why can't there be more than jwirr Jun 2016 #94

May well be malaise Jun 2016 #112

Yes. jwirr Jun 2016 #113

It can be both Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #110

I was accused of being a Trump supporter in a LBN thread. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #102

OMG - it's an epidemic! Three+ DUers = ALL PROGRESSIVES/LIBERALS/DEMOCRATS!!!!! tenderfoot Jun 2016 #108

No one does that treestar Jun 2016 #127

I don't put the potential for evil deeds past anyone. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #16

Are you suggesting radical Islam is accepting of homosexuality? davidn3600 Jun 2016 #17

Orlando PD called it "Domestic Terrorism". nt Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2016 #18

Good fucking lord ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #19

50 dead!!! apcalc Jun 2016 #82

erm, why? ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #22

Probably another NRA loving Christian. ileus Jun 2016 #23

So you gonna self delete or should I take a screen shot? Kurska Jun 2016 #27

He was born in New York in 1989 n/t malaise Jun 2016 #30

Does that make it impossible that he's an Islamic terrorist? Humanist_Activist Jun 2016 #34

Only the Christians are lone wolves with mental issues malaise Jun 2016 #41

Your sympathy for the victims is just gushing Kurska Jun 2016 #48

Go read what his father just said malaise Jun 2016 #53

Why is your concern entirely about making sure the shooter is portrayed in the correct light? Kurska Jun 2016 #59

Uh? What are you babbling on about? Humanist_Activist Jun 2016 #50

Go read his father's comments malaise Jun 2016 #56

So you're saying Western muslim communities have unaddressed issues with radicalization? Kurska Jun 2016 #35

He is an American domestic terrorist malaise Jun 2016 #38

Cute word play Kurska Jun 2016 #43

Wrong philosslayer Jun 2016 #45

MSNBC just read a statement from the shooter's father BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #47

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! n/t malaise Jun 2016 #61

Shit - now saying 50 dead. BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #62

Holy facting shite malaise Jun 2016 #65

Wrong Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #39

I think you may be wrong about this. boston bean Jun 2016 #40

His father said this has nothing to do with religion malaise Jun 2016 #51

All terrorism is a hate crime. boston bean Jun 2016 #52

Come on man Kurska Jun 2016 #55

Well this is embarrassing. linuxman Jun 2016 #44

Or not. jmg257 Jun 2016 #46

Considering that fundamentalist religion is EXTREMELY hostile to LGBT people NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #49

That statement is literally nuts. cali Jun 2016 #54

ESPECIALLY not on Latin Night. We can rule out Islamic terror right there. Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #58

Shit - now saying 50 dead. BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #60

Link? Kurska Jun 2016 #66

This is live from the press conference BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #67

I think I'm going to be sick... EOM Kurska Jun 2016 #69

I updated with a WAPO link confirming. BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #70

My god.....no ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #72

Well, that is bullshit. auntpurl Jun 2016 #64

This may turn out to be the largest crime against malaise Jun 2016 #68

"not a religious attack" Kurska Jun 2016 #71

Exactly - probably the largest number of victims in general from shooting too. BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #73

No shit it was a hate crime. auntpurl Jun 2016 #74

Have you contacted the FBI? You sure seem to know all there is to know about this. Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #75

Thank you for introducing logic and sanity into this conversation philosslayer Jun 2016 #76

That's precisely what his father said malaise Jun 2016 #78

And if the shooter was a white Christian.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #84

Sure if he had slaughtered 50 innocent people at a gay night club malaise Jun 2016 #85

Indeed it is. As Tommy Carcetti has said wisely and repeatedly this morning cali Jun 2016 #79

On DU, "we don't know enough" pretty much means Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #81

You're wasting your breath . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jun 2016 #87

Yeah, it's just random gun violence. Unless the shooter is Christian. Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #88

Is it EVER one thing over another? randome Jun 2016 #86

Good post ramdome malaise Jun 2016 #89

CNN: Shooter swore allegiance to ISIS Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #93

But he can't be a Jihadist. Says so right in the OP. Bonx Jun 2016 #116

Shooter pledged allegiance to ISIS being reported now Kurska Jun 2016 #97

You underestimate ideological hatred nt Ruby the Liberal Jun 2016 #98

You may want to revise that.... Just reading posts Jun 2016 #99

LOL Odin2005 Jun 2016 #103

You seem to know a lot about jihadis GummyBearz Jun 2016 #107

Failure to grapple with 1st generation born in US and how ISIL recruits them is a mistake. One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #111

#NoTrueJihadist (nt) TacoD Jun 2016 #118

#NotAllJihadists (nt) TacoD Jun 2016 #119

I hope this makes you reflect a bit. cali Jun 2016 #120

There is at least one. linuxman Jun 2016 #122

Well we saw how accurate this was... ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #124