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Religion is the foundation from which homophobia grows. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #1
Why? to break what I perceive as a vicious cycle MH1 Jun 2016 #5
What about the vicious cycle that leaves all of those dead bodies in Orlando? Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #13
Notice I stated religion, not Islam. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #14
Thank you. I think we agree on that point, MH1 Jun 2016 #18
(McVeigh) "He wasn't described as a "radical Christian terrorist"" BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #2
McVeigh and Roof are bad examples - neither's motivation was primarily religious. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #3
Why is Roof a "bad example" BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #6
What has being in a Church got to do with it? Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #8
You just torpedoed your own argument BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #11
Because he probably figured a church is softer target than a store. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #20
What? BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #21
I see a slight shift malaise Jun 2016 #9
Yes BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #12
No, I think it would be unhelpful to obfuscate the fact that this was religiously motivated. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #4
Why not "radical religious terrorist"? MH1 Jun 2016 #10
How do you integrate the fact that ten Islamic countries execute LGBT as a matter of course Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #7
Several points. MH1 Jun 2016 #16
Uganda has discussed but does not execute. They are nearly as bad anyway and that's your faith. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #23
Actually, I - DID - explain EXACTLY why I think the religion shouldn't be mentioned. MH1 Jun 2016 #27
McVeigh wasn't motivated by religion Matrosov Jun 2016 #15
Beliefs create motivation, plain and simple, and the source of such beliefs needs to be... Humanist_Activist Jun 2016 #17
I absolutely agree with your post. But - MH1 Jun 2016 #24
I don't know how I feel about your argument justiceischeap Jun 2016 #19
Thank you for the thoughtful response. MH1 Jun 2016 #22
Sorry, but no way to sugar coat it... JCMach1 Jun 2016 #25
Religion provides the justification. HassleCat Jun 2016 #26
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