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yep. I don't know why it has to be only one or the other. To me, both seem to apply here. boston bean Jun 2016 #1
Hate, like people is complex.....no doubt he sought affirmation of his hate, and he found it. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #4
ALL "brands" of religion can say its OK to hate "others" ... I don't see any evidence he was a devou uponit7771 Jun 2016 #2
Yeah.....I don't see too many Buddhists or Pagans on this path, do you? msanthrope Jun 2016 #9
Yes, my experience ... 9 billion people on Earth ... you know that right? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #10
Seems like it's endemic to one specific Abramahic religion GummyBearz Jun 2016 #27
Just one religion ? octoberlib Jun 2016 #42
I haven't seen one shoot up a gay night club in a while GummyBearz Jun 2016 #49
They haven't shot anybody.... yet. octoberlib Jun 2016 #58
Words vs bullets GummyBearz Jun 2016 #64
Where did they kill? 840high Jun 2016 #79
Uh ever heard of the 969 Movement? ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #39
Not looking in the right places unc70 Jun 2016 #41
Not a lot of Buddhists, but check out Myanmar. MH1 Jun 2016 #51
I'm guessing the 911 call support g ISIS is dispositive. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #71
No its direct evidence and not speculative, sounds like this guy is an all around asshole uponit7771 Jun 2016 #72
Do we know he was a Muslim and not another religion? Do we know if he was religious? mucifer Jun 2016 #3
Right, I've seen no evidence that he was even Muslim or religions or devout... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #11
We have a good idea. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2016 #63
His ex-wife said that he was not religious. milestogo Jun 2016 #76
Others report he was not very religious . Angry snd history of violence yes Person 2713 Jun 2016 #82
Father says it has nothing to do with relogion... sad Southerncomfy Jun 2016 #5
Daddy raised a mass murderer so his opinion is suspect. randome Jun 2016 #8
Please don't get me wrong.... I don't agree, just linking it Southerncomfy Jun 2016 #16
Understood! randome Jun 2016 #17
Yeah.....I'm gonna go ask Brock Turner's dad about his son, too. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #12
Agree completely. randome Jun 2016 #6
We don't know that! auntpurl Jun 2016 #7
Amen, I've not seen any evidence saying this was religiously connected or that the shooter was... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #14
The selfies of him in garb? nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #18
What "garb"!?!?! Muslim "garb"!? Isn't that stereotyping? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #20
How many Muslims do you actually know? Garb is the term used to describe traditonal msanthrope Jun 2016 #23
12 and they don't wear "garb" either, street closes etc... Dylan Roof was a Christian and no one sai uponit7771 Jun 2016 #25
I'd point out, however, that Islam is more intertwined with culture than Christianity is. randome Jun 2016 #26
This is NOT my experience, Christianity is just as bad were terrorism has been accepted uponit7771 Jun 2016 #29
I don't have a problem with calling them both out, then. randome Jun 2016 #37
Dylann Roof was a devout Christian, I have a problem calling them out when there's no evidence that uponit7771 Jun 2016 #40
The argument could perhaps be made, however.... randome Jun 2016 #43
Parents from Afghanistan. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #34
His parents are from Afghanistan. Their citizenship has not been determined yet. msanthrope Jun 2016 #32
irrelevant to my point, no evidence that Islam had anything to do with the shooting just as no evide uponit7771 Jun 2016 #33
His selfies in garb, the FBI. Give it a few hours, more coming out. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #21
Yes, GIVE IT A FEW HOURS. auntpurl Jun 2016 #22
He has a selfie in a NYPD polo shirt, too ... kwassa Jun 2016 #74
Just an asshole. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #75
50 people in a gay bar were more than endangered. David__77 Jun 2016 #30
Dylann Roof was a devout Christian, no evidence there that Christianity had anything to do with uponit7771 Jun 2016 #36
I understand your perspective. David__77 Jun 2016 #44
No words JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #52
I understand your perspective. David__77 Jun 2016 #45
If a person can be a devout Christian... MellowDem Jun 2016 #47
None of the faiths PROMOTE hate, they're twisted by people who hate to legitimize hatred IMHE uponit7771 Jun 2016 #48
Of course they do... MellowDem Jun 2016 #55
It's not surprising, no. auntpurl Jun 2016 #38
OK, I agree, for politicians. David__77 Jun 2016 #46
What information? I'm open to calling it what it is but I don't seem Islam involved here... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #50
Not much. The FBI agent indicating he may have leaning toward Islamic extremism. David__77 Jun 2016 #59
I'm guessing the 911 call support g ISIS is dispositive. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #70
No shit! get the red out Jun 2016 #80
Nonsense, Ted Cruz's biggest endorsements came from a Christian that calls for gays to be executed. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #13
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #15
Note.....I didn't state a religion. I think m the whole Abramahic scheme is fucked. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #19
For many years (not that long ago too) you could blame the media, doctors and politicians justiceischeap Jun 2016 #24
I agree ^^^^^^ Person 2713 Jun 2016 #60
It's important to discuss, expose, shame, and blame ideology which fuels such carnage PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #28
Makes one think, doesn't it: is hateful 'ideology' any different from 'hate radio'? randome Jun 2016 #31
It should all be blamed, shamed and discussed. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #35
Hateful religious ideology... MellowDem Jun 2016 #53
Very well-said! MindPilot Jun 2016 #57
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #54
Would you like them to wear a gold star too? Quackers Jun 2016 #67
no doubt these were influencing factors still_one Jun 2016 #56
It's fundamentalism. Religious Fundamentalism is a mental disorder. backscatter712 Jun 2016 #61
I agree 150 pct. n/t roamer65 Jun 2016 #65
Plenty of other brands breed the same hate Person 2713 Jun 2016 #62
The OP mentions nor favors any 'brand' of religion. The OP just stated a fact you can not dispute. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #66
The title does. It favors "his brand" . It yes , mentions the word "brand". Person 2713 Jun 2016 #68
Point being that any brand that taught that to him owns it. No matter which brand. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #69
He hated Pursuit of Happyness Bengi Jun 2016 #73
Far-Right Christians in this country must feel awfully conflicted about this. 6000eliot Jun 2016 #77
think of the quandary for repukes Skittles Jun 2016 #83
More than ok... TipTok Jun 2016 #78
I think so too bravenak Jun 2016 #81
I believe he was pious. joshcryer Jun 2016 #84
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