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auntpurl

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Sun Jun 12, 2016, 03:36 PM Jun 2016

Can I just say something about mental health? [View all]

Last edited Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:34 PM - Edit history (2)

Whenever these kinds of horrific events happen, there's always a lot of talk thrown around about the perpetrator being mentally ill. The media exploits this talk and uses terms like "psycho killer" to describe them.

It's really important to remember that the vast, vast majority of mentally ill people are NOT violent, and that most acts of violence are NOT committed by the mentally ill. You don't have to be mentally ill to murder someone. Not in the sense of a diagnosable mental illness.

Automatically assuming everyone who has committed an act of violence is mentally ill conflates the two in the public's mind. This leads to many bad outcomes, including:

- The mentally ill are discriminated against in myriad ways, including employment, benefits, and access to healthcare and education
- The mentally ill know that they face this discrimination, and are therefore less likely to seek help, and also less likely to adhere to medication schedules
- The mentally ill are more likely to receive harsher sentences in criminal trials
- The mentally ill are more likely to be victims of violent crimes

The problem of media stigma of the mentally ill is so widespread that an international measuring instrument has been produced: the PICMIN - Picture of Mental Illness In Newspapers (Rukvina et al, 2012). This standardised measure was developed in order to allow for comparison of stigmatising mental health media stories across countries and across time.

We have no knowledge yet (as far as I know, and please correct me if I'm wrong) that the shooter was diagnosed with a mental illness. It would be good to be careful with language - using phrases like "insane person", etc to describe him.

Here I confess something. I am a psychologist, and today, as I watched this horror in Orlando unfold, I actually used the above phrase "insane person" to describe the shooter in a post here. I was horrified by the images I saw coming out of Florida, crying, and just didn't think before I typed. Another DUer called me on it (nicely) and I immediately edited. But I am someone who WORKS in mental health, and I did that. This is how pervasive this is. I apologise for the few minutes that post of mine was up.

Thank you for reading.

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Terrorists are normally sane and understand fully what they are doing. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #1
Yes. auntpurl Jun 2016 #3
Good read DustyJoe Jun 2016 #2
Well, that is clearly not true. auntpurl Jun 2016 #4
Why would you want to own something made to kill unless you want to kill? scscholar Jun 2016 #27
wonderful post. thank you. cali Jun 2016 #5
Thanks for reading. auntpurl Jun 2016 #6
When someone commits such an atrocity Aerows Jun 2016 #19
"Unstable is a mental illness": Not in the sense of diagnosis and treatment. auntpurl Jun 2016 #20
I get what you are saying - the vast majority Aerows Jun 2016 #21
I'm so sorry. auntpurl Jun 2016 #22
Just when I think things have gotten better Aerows Jun 2016 #23
I was thinking today auntpurl Jun 2016 #24
... auntpurl Jun 2016 #7
we must talk about mental illness KT2000 Jun 2016 #8
"Words are important and we all have a need to separate ourselves from such an act." auntpurl Jun 2016 #9
as memory serves me - KT2000 Jun 2016 #15
It is much more helpful to base gun ownership on past actions than mental illness diagnosis. auntpurl Jun 2016 #17
reading comprehension KT2000 Jun 2016 #18
I think there is a valid conversation as to whether it is "sane" to think a magic being in the sky Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #10
This is why language is important. auntpurl Jun 2016 #12
I think the real reflexive denial here is to make the connection to Islamic Fundamentalism Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #14
I believe IS needs to be wiped out. auntpurl Jun 2016 #16
It's also an easy out. progressoid Jun 2016 #11
Yes. auntpurl Jun 2016 #13
One of the greatest atrocities that St. Ronnie committed Stonepounder Jun 2016 #25
How about a person being brainwashed, I liken his actions to a violent cult-like behavior oregonjen Jun 2016 #26
I'm a hunter with a history of Depression. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #28
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