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Igel

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1. Ask any privacy supporter exactly why they want ISIS supporters to have a right
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jun 2016

to encrypted phones and secure communications."

Ask any property owner exactly why they want ISIS supporters to be able to own property instead of having it confiscated upon suspicion of wrong-thinking.

Ask any free speech advocate exactly why they want the KKK to be able to have free speech and right to assembly, instead of limiting speech and forbidding groups to gather without formal government permission.

And so it goes. I personally don't own a fire arm. My brother does. But his ownership and exercise of the right should be defended, just like mine to freedom of religion and others' to freedom of association or speech. If we can't defend rights of those we don't like because of altruism or principle, view it selfishly: by asking that others' rights be restricted, we're asking for our own to be rescinded or to yield to dictatorship.

Ask any privacy supporter exactly why they want ISIS supporters to have a right Igel Jun 2016 #1
Not. Darb Jun 2016 #2
Which well regulated militia is your brother a member of? Kentonio Jun 2016 #3
Which ruling says that's how it works? linuxman Jun 2016 #4
Have you actually read the second amendment? Kentonio Jun 2016 #5
No, what's that? linuxman Jun 2016 #9
The relevance is the reason why the second amendment was written in the first place. Kentonio Jun 2016 #10
As long as you admit it. :) linuxman Jun 2016 #11
Did Washington, Jefferson and Franklin write those down themselves? Kentonio Jun 2016 #14
Considering teaching slaves to read and write was illegal, you tell me. linuxman Jun 2016 #15
Bullshit. Dem2 Jun 2016 #6
Why do you hate America? linuxman Jun 2016 #7
You clearly haven't been paying attention if you think this was the first misuse mythology Jun 2016 #12
Um, can you not do that with a woman? linuxman Jun 2016 #13
There are plenty of limits IronLionZion Jun 2016 #8
But plenty here on this website, do. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #16
People here don't make the law IronLionZion Jun 2016 #17
I agree completely, but it is the rhetoric from our side that drives the fears of gun owners. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #18
Obama used a rhetorical method that has served him well - the redirect. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #19
He addressed both parts of the question IronLionZion Jun 2016 #20
But he does want to restrict access aikoaiko Jun 2016 #21
Who decides who is a bad guy? IronLionZion Jun 2016 #22
Due process is the answer to your questions. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #24
Would it kill us to not have guns? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #23
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