"Conservatives" are traitors.

[Cary]

73. "Disgusting, misleading, offensive and dim. Pathetic, really."

"poorly veiled insults."

I am actually a lot better at insults than you are. If I was insulting you I wouldn't veil the insult, poorly or otherwise.

No, the way I see your posts you strike me as apologist. Perhaps you think I am misusing the term somehow in order to insinuate that you are a "conservative"? No, I am using the term correctly to convey my opinion that you are speaking in defense of "conservatives". How? I don't really know exactly, which is why I asked you to nicely to explain.

I have always wondered what the difference is between "intellectually dishonest" and "dishonest" and I tend to favor the latter. So you have gone from apologizing to me for falsely accusing me of lying, to again accusing me of being a liar.

The irony of the juxtaposition here of the word "apology" and variants is not lost on me.

But stripping away your emotional babble, you do offer a glimmer of substance. So I correctly surmised that your only "argument" is that I should not call them traitors because they called us traitors.

I have made a distinction here and I accuse you of a false equivalence. They do not have a real argument that liberals are traitors. I, by contrast, am citing the fact that they have put their ideology ahead of the interests of our nation and of WE, THE PEOPLE. I have cited examples, one of which is their austerity argument. There are many such examples and "conservatives" flat out refuse to consider any empirical evidence that contradicts their ideology. Worse yet, they lie. They flat out lie. I'll go so far as to say that "conservatives," like National Socialists, are purveyors of The Big Lie. We have many, many examples. Hell, they lied us into a war of all things.

I am open to a real counter-argument. I am asking you your opinion in good faith. I have not attacked your person the way you insist on attacking mine, and I will not do that. I have attacked your argument here, and that is all. In fact I have complimented you by telling you that you have a good mind, and I meant that.

So is this the best you have? You won't call a traitor a traitor because "conservatives" falsely accused us of being traitors?

What if I do call traitors traitors? What's going to happen? Is a big boxing glove going to come out of the screen and punch me?

Actually it kind of seems to me like you may agree but you're just afraid to call "conservatives" what they really are. Perhaps you're suggesting here that somehow we are going to lose the argument to "conservatives" by calling them traitors?

I really am seeing more people coming out and saying that the Republican conspiracy against President Obama, thwarting anything that he might do and then turning around and blaming him for not getting things done, is treason. There's a new book out, and the author escapes me. It was one of the MSNBC regular commentators who has a new book, and he somewhat reluctantly called it treason.

And I'm sorry if I find your defensive attitude here to be rather odd, but it's odd. You could disagree without being so obnoxious about it. Yes, you could.