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passiveporcupine

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331. You guys all really bought into this left swing of Hillary's didn't you?

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:06 PM

Jun 2016

She only started to swing left when she saw Bernie's popularity soaring, and everyone knows that campaign speeches are not necessarily the direction the politician will go once elected. For that you have to look at history, and historically Bernie has always been consistent. Noam has always been consistent. Obama fooled us. He was so good at his speeches we really thought he was a progressive, but he wasn't. Hillary is not fooling anyone but her supporters. She has always skewed left socially and right economically.

As soon as she's deep in the trenches, fighting Trump, she will start to fall back to her real position. And once elected President, she will shift back even faster.

Unless somehow Bernie can keep the pressure on (with our help). We need you Bernie, now more than ever.

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Noam Chomsky: The Democratic Party is now in the hands of Moderate Republicans. [View all] RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 OP

Could be that Noam is so far left that everything seems right. Itchinjim Jun 2016 #1

That is exactly what it is. 7962 Jun 2016 #15

No it's not the proof is inequality gap. It's widening not shrinking under democratic control. JRLeft Jun 2016 #50

True OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #58

unbelievable. Noam is now the enemy. roguevalley Jun 2016 #104

exactly! green917 Jun 2016 #124

Are you kidding ???? Eugene Debbs ..... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #201

OK Make that any New Deal Democrat. merrily Jun 2016 #233

That's a step in the correct direction . ... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #293

I try to remember to use "correct" instead of "right" for that reason. merrily Jun 2016 #323

Who is calling Noam the enemy. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #183

To be fair, I do. Ever since he became an apologist for the Khmer Rouge. ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2016 #237

Moderate Republicans that took over the Democrat party. Matt_R Jun 2016 #312

These posters' replies are just more support for Noam's statements. Ned Flanders Jun 2016 #255

Noam has been getting bashed by right wingers since forever, nothing new.. 2banon Jun 2016 #267

I just think Thomas Frank wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #292

We've been abandoned wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #295

I agree. robx Jun 2016 #304

the regressive left? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #338

Here's the video. earthshine Jun 2016 #208

This message was self-deleted by its author SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #270

There is only one party in the United States SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #272

I fought "Moderate Republican Policy" in the 80s with all my passion. bvar22 Jun 2016 #235

He is as accomplished as Hillary, but without all the flip flopping and secrets. earthshine Jun 2016 #212

Of course. Pretty standard means of propaganda. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #62

The DLC propaganda avoids detailed polls on critical issues. The Far Left Jun 2016 #130

Could be. Before deciding though, sulphurdunn Jun 2016 #71

"So far left" Itchinjim Jun 2016 #76

Definition isn't working too well. sulphurdunn Jun 2016 #87

It's complicated to get into a one-liner. libdem4life Jun 2016 #115

I think they mean anything that could be construed as or actually is critical of Clinton. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #157

Lol is that when the 'offical' vote totals come in?? Volaris Jun 2016 #285

How far left is 'everyone else' AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #142

Moderates Moved The Center To The Right billhicks76 Jun 2016 #296

So there is only one person who is so far left? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #324

His beliefs have stayed the same over the decades TransitJohn Jun 2016 #82

Yes, he is an ideologue. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #141

People on the far right refer to Chomsky as an ideologue as well. SkyIsGrey Jun 2016 #193

Look it up in a dictionary if you need to. Then get back to me. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #196

Far-right politics SkyIsGrey Jun 2016 #198

Impressive show of obstinance. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #200

Impressive show of irony. SkyIsGrey Jun 2016 #218

more like an impressive show of hypocrisy ellennelle Jun 2016 #221

Agreed. SkyIsGrey Jun 2016 #284

uncompromising and dogmatic SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #276

Odd how Hillarians constantly accuse Bernistas of being "RW" 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #204

Actually, no. It's the opposite Scootaloo Jun 2016 #149

Nailed it, as you so often do. merrily Jun 2016 #236

An anarco- syndicalist is not... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #286

Ah.. Yes... intersectionality Jun 2016 #356

Actually, reACTIONary Jun 2016 #357

Nope. He's pretty much in the same place he's has been for decades. blackspade Jun 2016 #155

Princeton did a study a couple of years back, they found we're living in an Oligarchy... raindaddy Jun 2016 #176

+1...nt freebrew Jun 2016 #211

+1 merrily Jun 2016 #238

Isn't Pres. Obama typical of today's Democratic Party? merrily Jun 2016 #231

or just perhaps vice versa? 2banon Jun 2016 #265

That could well be. red dog 1 Jun 2016 #290

+1 n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #300

Chomsky believes ronnie624 Jun 2016 #314

It's ridiculous for him to claim that the Dems and the other party are the same pnwmom Jun 2016 #315

That's not what he said. ronnie624 Jun 2016 #316

Could be you are a Republicrat and therefore think Noam is so far left. Kip Humphrey Jun 2016 #317

63% of Americans believe minimum wage should be $15 by 2020 Ash_F Jun 2016 #328

We get it Noam rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #2

Are you red baiting? randr Jun 2016 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #14

Well said! Kilgore Jun 2016 #36

Constructive criticism would be better said. The Far Left Jun 2016 #178

nicely put ellennelle Jun 2016 #282

And since when has there been a true communist government? RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #147

Right on comrade! hughee99 Jun 2016 #180

And I hear.... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #206

Capitalism is a failed system... freebrew Jun 2016 #213

Technically, anarcho-syndicalism davekriss Jun 2016 #139

You admit to being a McCarthy'st on a liberal board? newthinking Jun 2016 #197

I don't know, I think you might just be.... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #207

Hmm newthinking Jun 2016 #214

LOL, one... and you? reACTIONary Jun 2016 #278

McCarthyism was shet and should be crushed, not just baited. merrily Jun 2016 #243

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #251

You are vastly showing your ignorance of the period newthinking Jun 2016 #266

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #274

LOL! Red baiting is a lot more 1950s than McCarthy hating. merrily Jun 2016 #319

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #341

How to count the ways in which your reply is dead wrong? merrily Jun 2016 #342

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #343

Look at my post 243 to reACTIONary and your replies to my post 243. merrily Jun 2016 #344

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #345

We all know what you posted. As far as "anger," "spittle" and "butthurt," that's all been from you. merrily Jun 2016 #346

Hard to believe isn't it? newthinking Jun 2016 #268

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #246

"Lefties" are not stuck. Those of us that are older had better teaching newthinking Jun 2016 #264

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Right on, brother! eom reACTIONary Jun 2016 #203

"kleptocratic authoritarian failed God" ellennelle Jun 2016 #234

With the exception that.... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #289

'xcuse me? ellennelle Jun 2016 #320

Well, if you are interested in history.... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #358

good lord ellennelle Jun 2016 #359

Actually, it's known as .... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #360

ahem. Better go do your home work, Chomsky isn't a Communist. SMFH 2banon Jun 2016 #269

Wow, you're on edge arent you. 7962 Jun 2016 #24

Case in point. seabeckind Jun 2016 #34

Yeah, its a JOKE. 7962 Jun 2016 #43

Second case in point. seabeckind Jun 2016 #52

did it sound like a joke? G_j Jun 2016 #95

How could it NOT? "VZ is nice this time of year". OBVIOUSLY a joke. 7962 Jun 2016 #165

don't ever look for work as a comedian G_j Jun 2016 #339

Another poster made the joke. keep up. 7962 Jun 2016 #348

The best joke here GummyBearz Jun 2016 #134

No, the best joke here are those who cant take one. 7962 Jun 2016 #161

So funny GummyBearz Jun 2016 #191

His PhD doesnt impress me. He's proven many times how full of it he is. 7962 Jun 2016 #194

And you don't impress a 10 year old with a mental handicap GummyBearz Jun 2016 #301

I dont take money from the gullible. I posted factual info 7962 Jun 2016 #309

Ummm, Chomsky is a linguist..... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #216

Laughable newthinking Jun 2016 #273

What's laughable is.... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #288

And he has supported a Holocaust denier, claimed Pol Pot didnt commit genocide, etc 7962 Jun 2016 #310

He identified with McCarthyism. Not going to be so easy to walk that back. newthinking Jun 2016 #199

The original post was a simple joke about visiting venezuela. 7962 Jun 2016 #202

Correct rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #249

They're proving his point. n/t thomservo Jun 2016 #110

They are. blackspade Jun 2016 #156

The old America love it or leave it canard. sulphurdunn Jun 2016 #85

. Noam Chomsky: is full of shit.. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #3

Shoot the messenger! (In this case Chomsky) Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #7

Your comment is unwarranted and disgusting. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #13

"full of shit" is verbally violent. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #16

Shoot the mesenger! is from an old saying padfun Jun 2016 #25

Lighten up NV Whino Jun 2016 #26

It's actually a medieval phrase...when the messenger would come with a libdem4life Jun 2016 #121

Thanks NV Whino Jun 2016 #188

It's an expression... KansDem Jun 2016 #162

This message was self-deleted by its author passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #326

The messenger rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #18

+10000 7962 Jun 2016 #27

I'll grant you that the plantation owners' republic (pre-1860) was to the right of Chomsky. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #33

Articulately said rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #37

Well said. seabeckind Jun 2016 #42

I WONDER What It Will Take OR How long IT WILL Take For ChiciB1 Jun 2016 #72

I agree with you that Chomsky's political analysis cred is equal to his linguistic cred. Not sure ancianita Jun 2016 #297

drowning in koolaid ellennelle Jun 2016 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #67

His political conviction may be anachronistic. (And to be fair: so is Third Way conviction.) Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #97

ok, well then ellennelle Jun 2016 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #98

saw that ellennelle Jun 2016 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #108

well i sure wasn't to flatter him ellennelle Jun 2016 #111

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backatcha ellennelle Jun 2016 #125

Likewise rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #263

LOL - spot on. eom reACTIONary Jun 2016 #220

Lots of Republicans don't like Trump Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2016 #84

And... we have someone playing the Trump card! Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #88

Different Republicans a2liberal Jun 2016 #181

don't forget neocon PNAC Iraq war demigod Robert Kagan AntiBank Jun 2016 #192

Exactly, Noam Chomsky needs to catch up. A Simple Game Jun 2016 #170

How nice. Duval Jun 2016 #174

flesh that chippy little intellectually vapid comment out. And no, putting up a US flag smiley AntiBank Jun 2016 #184

STFU Noam wyldwolf Jun 2016 #4

I will ask you if he's wrong, and will get crickets in response. This is my prediction. Gene Debs Jun 2016 #5

Yes he's wrong wyldwolf Jun 2016 #9

The red baiting of Chomsky proves otherwise randr Jun 2016 #11

That's stupid wyldwolf Jun 2016 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #30

Chomsky is no Commie. And there was a time in the 30's and 40's when Democrats embraced Socialism. Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #39

The Democratic Party has embraced elements of socialism wyldwolf Jun 2016 #55

Progressive is not a synonym of socialism. merrily Jun 2016 #240

Who said it was? Yet, it's always 'progressives' who pine away for it wyldwolf Jun 2016 #241

Your post certainly strongly implied it. merrily Jun 2016 #244

no it didn't wyldwolf Jun 2016 #247

. merrily Jun 2016 #250

. wyldwolf Jun 2016 #253

Bwahaaaahaaaaa. Damn, wyldwolf, that's a thigh-slapper! Good one! Scuba Jun 2016 #12

It's true, though wyldwolf Jun 2016 #22

I agree Plucketeer Jun 2016 #112

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! ellennelle Jun 2016 #53

No substance - just girlish giggles wyldwolf Jun 2016 #63

uh no ellennelle Jun 2016 #101

And it shows wyldwolf Jun 2016 #138

thank you ellennelle Jun 2016 #185

The Democratic Party Is More Liberal than It's Ever Been ????????????? Thirties Child Jun 2016 #73

Yes??? wyldwolf Jun 2016 #77

Ridiculous assertion. JBoy Jun 2016 #103

Can't answer? wyldwolf Jun 2016 #137

It was a good answer passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #330

The Democratic platform Turin_C3PO Jun 2016 #116

Theoretically Civil Rights may be better. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #259

Social issues keep progressing, passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #329

That statement is so absurd that it makes it impossible to take anything else Gene Debs Jun 2016 #75

I can think of nothing I'd enjoy more wyldwolf Jun 2016 #80

Either you have a poor grasp of history, a poor grasp of the party, or a poor grasp of the word. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #150

"Progressives" have been in a bubble so long... wyldwolf Jun 2016 #152

A bubble has two sides, it seems some don't realize which side of the bubble they are on. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2016 #172

I seriously don't think you understand any of the words you're trying to use Scootaloo Jun 2016 #217

You are making a joke, right? Duval Jun 2016 #179

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #21

HE'S WRONG. hope that was louder than the crickets. nt 7962 Jun 2016 #28

you can say it as loud as you like ellennelle Jun 2016 #59

Well, you said youd get crickets & you didnt. Facts are what makes him wrong 7962 Jun 2016 #164

never mentioned crickets ellennelle Jun 2016 #186

You are correct, another poster referred to the crickets 7962 Jun 2016 #195

a mind so open ellennelle Jun 2016 #321

ooh, nice ellennelle Jun 2016 #51

Says the girlish giggler from post 53 wyldwolf Jun 2016 #64

again ellennelle Jun 2016 #120

And it shows. wyldwolf Jun 2016 #136

It's hardly "now" zentrum Jun 2016 #6

I'm not sure if "moderate" is the word I'd use. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #8

Chomsky must not understand our form of government. In order to swing this country progressively Trust Buster Jun 2016 #17

Yeah, it's Noam fucking Chomsky who doesn't know how the government works TransitJohn Jun 2016 #86

I'm just stating the facts. In 2020, this country is going to perform a Census. Shortly thereafter, Trust Buster Jun 2016 #90

Guru? TransitJohn Jun 2016 #92

Neoliberal Underground? AntiBank Jun 2016 #335

Well, how many former Democratic Presidential Candidates gave secret speeches to Wall Street? jalan48 Jun 2016 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #23

Just in-Liberals are rocking Wall Street. jalan48 Jun 2016 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #31

Secret speeches convey a message-a liberal one perhaps? jalan48 Jun 2016 #35

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Hillary is a banker? jalan48 Jun 2016 #41

No is the answer randr Jun 2016 #60

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What a lame excuse for lack of self control randr Jun 2016 #119

more like ellennelle Jun 2016 #189

My bullshit meter is on high alert today randr Jun 2016 #190

and kudos for that! ellennelle Jun 2016 #219

Bankers are American citizens with *more* rights than us. OnyxCollie Jun 2016 #74

Wait! It's the corporations are people argument. seabeckind Jun 2016 #143

Wrong Noam edhopper Jun 2016 #32

Small "d" democrats. seabeckind Jun 2016 #47

Except when they go behind closed doors with Newt to gut it. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #49

Which the Dems edhopper Jun 2016 #57

Bill Clinton and Obama both tried. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #65

You guys all really bought into this left swing of Hillary's didn't you? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #331

+5 appalachiablue Jun 2016 #70

If the modern Democratic Party could get rid of any of those things without Gene Debs Jun 2016 #79

HA HA really??? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2016 #257

Well, that does it. Fold the tents, the argument's over. Wednesdays Jun 2016 #327

Many Dems today are to the right of Nixon whether they know it or not. Broward Jun 2016 #40

Nixon created the EPA StoneCarver Jun 2016 #66

Right, all the Democrats who voted for Hillary are really republicans. What bullshit still_one Jun 2016 #45

A rose by another name. n/t seabeckind Jun 2016 #48

Not today.... vi5 Jun 2016 #109

Tell it to the millions of registered DEMOCRATS who vote regularly. 7962 Jun 2016 #46

What? No koolaide reference? n/t seabeckind Jun 2016 #54

I think he's trying to bive you something to wrap your teeth around. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #56

I have read many of his works. Thats why i dont think much of him. 7962 Jun 2016 #169

I don't know what you've been reading, but it sure wasn't Chomsky. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #337

I told you so. N/t Triana Jun 2016 #60

With respect to Mr. Chomsky... davidthegnome Jun 2016 #68

Yawn. stopbush Jun 2016 #78

THANK U SO MUCH FOR THIS LINK!! ellennelle Jun 2016 #81

He is 100% correct. deathrind Jun 2016 #83

This is not the DU of the early 2000's, and that's a shame. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #91

I could care less about what Chomsky says elljay Jun 2016 #94

Ab-so-fucking-lutely correct. nt JEB Jun 2016 #102

The Republican wing of the Democratic party. n/t brentspeak Jun 2016 #96

I think this proves that Chomsky et al are not interested in countering the fascism of the GOP. baldguy Jun 2016 #99

just, wow ellennelle Jun 2016 #118

Oh, please! Have a little acknowledgment of reality here. baldguy Jun 2016 #132

ellennelle's right, not only do you not get it, you're determined not to get it. You're Gene Debs Jun 2016 #242

When was the last time Chomsky criticized an acual Republican? baldguy Jun 2016 #258

What the hell does that have to do with anything!? How does that have any bearing whatsoever on Gene Debs Jun 2016 #260

There are GOP fascists on one side, and Democrats opposing them on the other. baldguy Jun 2016 #280

So I'll ask again. Is Chomsky's above statement wrong? Gene Debs Jun 2016 #283

Of course it is - because it's a lie. baldguy Jun 2016 #302

Oh, for fuck's sake. Now "Trump smiles." Welcome to my ignore list. Gene Debs Jun 2016 #305

You ignore the truth. baldguy Jun 2016 #308

ah, you cut to the chase ellennelle Jun 2016 #322

I believe that the GOP is uniquly evil. baldguy Jun 2016 #349

you are scary, sir ellennelle Jun 2016 #353

All I want to say is fuck you to the Chomsky critics on this DU thread......... Stainless Jun 2016 #100

I just find him incoherent and frivolous. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #106

omg. you people are beyond bizarre ellennelle Jun 2016 #107

No. I liked John Kenneth Galbraith. Chomsky is vapid and useless. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #114

you do realize ellennelle Jun 2016 #127

He's boring too Gomez163 Jun 2016 #129

ah! that's what i thought! ellennelle Jun 2016 #135

American democracy died 30 years ago. The Far Left Jun 2016 #151

thx for this reminder ellennelle Jun 2016 #187

It's true, but her supporters aren't willing to admit it openly. They are apparently NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #117

+1 Duval Jun 2016 #182

He's correct. Compared to FDR, LBJ, and President Carter we're closer to moderate repubs in craigmatic Jun 2016 #122

Exactly right muktiman Jun 2016 #123

Subs DemocraticSocialist8 Jun 2016 #128

Unfortunately, your suggestion doesn't even LWolf Jun 2016 #131

THANKS AGAIN, SO MUCH!! ellennelle Jun 2016 #133

Hearing what some people here have had to say about Chomsky passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #333

it doesnt fit Locrian Jun 2016 #350

What a crock of manure! yallerdawg Jun 2016 #140

To the right of Ronnie Reagan. gordianot Jun 2016 #144

Don't let the door... Gman Jun 2016 #145

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=25838 stupidicus Jun 2016 #146

Ain't that the truth? seabeckind Jun 2016 #159

yep stupidicus Jun 2016 #177

Lots of moderate Republicans in denial in this thread. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #148

"Democratic Underground" will be renamed as "Democratic Establishment." immoderate Jun 2016 #153

I like RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #163

How about, Republican-Lite Establishment? immoderate Jun 2016 #167

Good thing we have Noam to decide which party we belong to. Otherwise, how would we know? L. Coyote Jun 2016 #154

I like that Chomsky managed to upset every "moderate" on the site. tenderfoot Jun 2016 #158

He certainly hit a nerve. CharlotteVale Jun 2016 #160

You get banned around here for pointing this out maindawg Jun 2016 #166

Party labels have become meaningless and should be treated with skepticism. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #168

fantastic paine quote ellennelle Jun 2016 #225

That's what I've been saying. Vinca Jun 2016 #171

I have always had a great deal of respect for Noam Chomsky. Duval Jun 2016 #173

I don't know about that. How far do you think Bernie Sanders would have got ... dawg Jun 2016 #175

What a bag of bull shit. Loki Jun 2016 #205

The Dems better watch it - FairWinds Jun 2016 #209

"The Dems better watch it" A cautionary tale for November DJ13 Jun 2016 #336

I remember a guy who won on the cry: "It's the economy, stupid". seabeckind Jun 2016 #347

The American Conservative Union jamese777 Jun 2016 #210

this source is only partially helpful ellennelle Jun 2016 #215

If you look at the actual rankings jamese777 Jun 2016 #223

you apparently did not understand my point ellennelle Jun 2016 #228

I'll tell you how they get their "positions." RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #224

They aren't "positions" jamese777 Jun 2016 #227

ah; so who decides which of these are ellennelle Jun 2016 #229

The American CONSERVATIVE Union jamese777 Jun 2016 #254

ah. were it so simple as a vote ellennelle Jun 2016 #279

No they certainly are positions. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #256

O.K. jamese777 Jun 2016 #261

Never thought I'd see the day geomon666 Jun 2016 #222

no kidding ellennelle Jun 2016 #230

...nor surprising who's doing it, though. cyberswede Jun 2016 #232

Yeah because moderate rethugs also.... MaggieD Jun 2016 #226

Marriage equality... MellowDem Jun 2016 #281

I'm a lesbian MaggieD Jun 2016 #294

Democratic leaders are moderate conservatives... MellowDem Jun 2016 #298

Again, false MaggieD Jun 2016 #299

You aren't reading my posts... MellowDem Jun 2016 #303

I have nothing to do with the DNC and DWS!!!! erlewyne Jun 2016 #239

with you on that one!! ellennelle Jun 2016 #271

So can anyone suggest any genuine progressive sites that are structured like DU but truly Gene Debs Jun 2016 #245

no, it took a dirty bunch of centrists to perfect the political discussion forum wyldwolf Jun 2016 #248

your quote there ellennelle Jun 2016 #275

He is EXACTLY RIGHT! cui bono Jun 2016 #252

Chomsky nails the usurpers from the Right JEB Jun 2016 #262

Chomsky the libertarian trots out this same simplistic slogan and gets the same genius treatment ucrdem Jun 2016 #287

just stunning ellennelle Jun 2016 #318

He's right of course. Let the revolution begin folks. Thank you Bernie for the wake up call. YOHABLO Jun 2016 #291

That's been true since Democrats bought into Reaganomics. nt Gore1FL Jun 2016 #306

Even President Obama says this. ZombieHorde Jun 2016 #307

The money elite has taken our government completely. azmom Jun 2016 #311

K&R.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #313

if dems want to keep ignoring rw radio while it kicks their ass certainot Jun 2016 #325

I have news for you. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #352

i wish you were right certainot Jun 2016 #355

We see evidence of this right here on good old DU nikto Jun 2016 #332

yep, they are right up in our face and 99% of the time rabid Clinton partisans AntiBank Jun 2016 #334

yep G_j Jun 2016 #340

Chomsky must have read the call for uniting lockstep behind the chosen New Democrat Dear Leader. Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #351

Moderate is VERY misleading. It is corporatist, war hawk Republicans. Of course they like Skwmom Jun 2016 #354