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Locrian

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32. I think you have a valid point

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:12 AM

Jun 2016

It's a complex issue. And social stigma of course will not work well with people on the fringe etc.

But it does have an effect on the general population. We're seeing it now as more and more people get fed up - which will equal more chance to affect some degree of control.

There is no one solution. I see a bunch of groups:

1) "good guys" with guns who think the make you safer
2) general population condition by 24/7 advertising (movies, tv, etc) to think guns are just great
3) mentally disturbed people
4) fanatics
5) criminals

*And of course a bunch of people sick of the carnage but don't know what to do or understand the full scope of the problem.

Social stigma may work on 1,2,* not on the rest. For those we need more creative laws and systems to deal with root cause. But there needs to be some sort of general will to do it. Bring on the social stigma.

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Well, this will not be popular, but in this country you cannot stop a lone nut with a gun! [View all] Logical Jun 2016 OP

It should be harder to get a device MEANT to kill people than to get a car... eom uponit7771 Jun 2016 #1

Agree, we should not facilitate the access to weapons developed to kill people, they should be Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #12

especially automatic assualt rifles with large clips. Gun shows sell that garbage all the time still_one Jun 2016 #29

Ban the fugging assault rifles and the magazines malaise Jun 2016 #2

How do you collect the millions out there already? nt Logical Jun 2016 #6

no semi-automatics allowed would help... JCMach1 Jun 2016 #3

Not sure you can take the ones out there legally. And this country does not have enough guts to..... Logical Jun 2016 #5

absolutely, our politicians are gutless... just pointing out it isn't AR-15 per se JCMach1 Jun 2016 #8

Or enough cops. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #34

But most mass shooters got it legally. nt Logical Jun 2016 #4

We can't control the number of weapons already in circulation Generic Brad Jun 2016 #7

Well, in the months it takes to implement that, if you really can, millions of rounds will be.... Logical Jun 2016 #9

Understood Generic Brad Jun 2016 #10

The real issue is that no repuk or dem would even support it. nt Logical Jun 2016 #11

Probably not, actually. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #35

Every other country on this planet seems to be able to. baldguy Jun 2016 #13

Rifles are legal in canada and 10 round magazines are allowed. I think the issue is that people..... Logical Jun 2016 #14

So Americans are uniquely pathological & murderous? baldguy Jun 2016 #15

Give me the name of one democratic senator who would ban guns or ammo. nt Logical Jun 2016 #17

Exactly. laundry_queen Jun 2016 #24

We have nearly 10x's the population here in the States. grossproffit Jun 2016 #21

No. It's the gun laws. They are much more strict. nt laundry_queen Jun 2016 #23

We can go after guns like we go after smoking. It's a public health crisis. hunter Jun 2016 #16

But people love them. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #18

Folks want a simple answer sarisataka Jun 2016 #19

True. Lone nuts with guns also aren't the problem. Recursion Jun 2016 #20

We all know of people who we suspect might snap someday Dem2 Jun 2016 #22

And compared to the EU lancer78 Jun 2016 #25

The only plausible solution I can see is a social stigma. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #26

Social stigma? Straw Man Jun 2016 #27

However, gun ownership is not. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #30

Your point? Straw Man Jun 2016 #31

I think you have a valid point Locrian Jun 2016 #32

Crazy is as crazy does. Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #28

So we do nothing instead? justiceischeap Jun 2016 #33