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Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
14. Bullshit.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:37 AM
Jun 2016

So, Bill Gates want's to buy a few Nuclear warhead ICBM's. That's falls under "arms". Is he constitutionally protected to do so??

2nd Amendment: ""A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

All the pro gun crowd tend to completely forget that first clause. "well regulated"- right there we have the authorization of regulation. It is not, as written, a blank clause for unlimited access and ownership.

Then, there's the second clause of it stating "being necessary to the security of a free state". It is very easily argued, that as a new country, most of which was frontier and had a very low level of development, there was a necessity for a musket wielding population to ensure the security of a free state. Here's a hint, we are no longer in 1776. The entire nation is developed, well established borders are in place, and there is no threat to to the security of a free state. Additionally, any threat to the security of a free state that today's highly advanced military couldn't handle, no amount of gun toting civilian population is going to have the capability to thwart.

Additionally, even the tenants of the first amendment.. the prime amendment of guaranteed freedoms is not without legal regulation. No law regarding an establishment of religion, yet since Bradfield v. Roberts (1899) there's been a number of laws regarding established religion and their place in our society and what they can/can't do with regards to the government. The first amendment clearly states "prohibiting the free expression thereof" which had traditionally meant anyone could pray and lead prayer anywhere. Now, there are laws and interpretations in place to separate prayer from publicly funded and official places. A great step forward at that imo.

Freedom of speech and the press? Ever heard of libel and slander? Not rights without limit.

As you say.. "The fact that this has to be explained time and time again gives me a fucking headache."

Yeah, I agree.

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what if.....? [View all] kpete Jun 2016 OP
I love it! This cartoon needs to go viral. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #1
Illustrates exactly how screwed up our priorities are in the US. Fla Dem Jun 2016 #2
The theory is that life precious SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #3
Perfectly put. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2016 #31
K & R and 100% true. mountain grammy Jun 2016 #4
Love this cartoon! jaxind Jun 2016 #5
ban Grover Norquist too as long as you are at it!! AntiBank Jun 2016 #10
K & R FailureToCommunicate Jun 2016 #6
Great cartoon Gothmog Jun 2016 #7
Posting on FB. CrispyQ Jun 2016 #8
Tell you what; Indydem Jun 2016 #9
It's a woman's Constitutional Right to choose what to do with her body lunatica Jun 2016 #11
I agree. Indydem Jun 2016 #16
How do you define well regulated lunatica Jun 2016 #18
As the Founders Did. Indydem Jun 2016 #22
You think that having a mass murder every few weeks means the law is functioning as intended? baldguy Jun 2016 #34
Unfortunately, yes. Indydem Jun 2016 #35
That is literally insane. And means America is not in any way a free & civilized country. baldguy Jun 2016 #36
Fuck the Second Amendment and all those declaring its "holiness" packman Jun 2016 #12
Maybe is was / has. Indydem Jun 2016 #17
You are on the wrong board packman Jun 2016 #21
No, I am not. Indydem Jun 2016 #23
Really? That old trope? progressoid Jun 2016 #25
Read around. Indydem Jun 2016 #27
That's not what I asked. progressoid Jun 2016 #28
"Well-Regulated": It's not just for breakfast anymore. nt Gore1FL Jun 2016 #13
LOL, I was typing mine while you typed yours. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #15
Perhaps you should investigate some more. Indydem Jun 2016 #19
It'snot well-regulated enough now. Gore1FL Jun 2016 #32
Who regulates the militias? IronLionZion Jun 2016 #26
Bullshit. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #14
+1000 Liberal In Texas Jun 2016 #20
"Well regulated" TeddyR Jun 2016 #24
I'm deeply saddened to hear that you're suffering from a headache. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #37
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #29
Kick and Rec That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #30
All true except they forgot the required internal probe SaveAmerica Jun 2016 #33
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