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AntiBank

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93. wow did you misread my words

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:00 AM

Jun 2016

I was saying as violent as the Aussies have been (and they have been) , the American culture of violence has far outsripped them.

And I blamed (in my post) the systemic hundreds of years of raw, racist, brutal slavery for laying the underpinnings of the violent black underclass, along with the current raw, brutal racist police state and industrial prison complex, plus no real redress after the Civil War (40 acres and a mule, etc failure). Also lack of economic fairshake opportunity has played a massive role.

Another thing I left out, a key element to the evolution of America.

Manifest Destiny.

That entire ethos is the epitome of violence and conquest.

So don't try and impune me by falsely slagging me with things I never said.

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Bill Rejected By The GOP 6 Months Ago Would Have Stopped Florida Shooter From Gun Purchase [View all] L. Coyote Jun 2016 OP

The idea that terrorists are innocent until proven guilty... scscholar Jun 2016 #1

It's the NRA's objective to ratchet things up, so that there is more fear and more gun sales. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #59

Exactly what goes on, more gun sales, and congress supports them for $$$$$'s. It's RKP5637 Jun 2016 #77

Exactly. The NRA works for gun manufacturers... Beartracks Jun 2016 #111

Which list was he on? linuxman Jun 2016 #2

A good question. LS_Editor Jun 2016 #3

at least 2 MariaThinks Jun 2016 #4

Really? which ones? linuxman Jun 2016 #18

Support for secret government lists on DU? Ok. Nt hack89 Jun 2016 #5

Misconstruing an OP. Never happened before on DU. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #6

Sorry. Thought you supported the proposed law. Nt hack89 Jun 2016 #7

Republicans opposed the law is my point. You miscontrue why they oppose it. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #61

And you and I oppose the law for a more positive reason hack89 Jun 2016 #69

I know, can you imagine? Darb Jun 2016 #8

So secret lists and no due process is fine with you? hack89 Jun 2016 #9

Getting rid of the archaic 2nd Amendment seems the better path. GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #12

That would be very hard if not impossible hack89 Jun 2016 #14

So instead of just being a naysayer to the idea of fixing things Laha Jun 2016 #49

starting a genuine civil war is not part of the solution AntiBank Jun 2016 #55

Putting words into my mouth Laha Jun 2016 #72

I agree on that, I did feel you were advocating for repeal, if not, I stand corrected AntiBank Jun 2016 #75

Cool, thanks! Laha Jun 2016 #86

lots of crazily fucked up shit happening all at once, hugs AntiBank Jun 2016 #87

you do realise your advocation for 2nd Amendment repeal would trigger a civil war? AntiBank Jun 2016 #54

Australia managed. Perhaps they're more exceptional than we are. Scuba Jun 2016 #90

they are way less violent than the American collective psyche, and the Aussies can (and have been) AntiBank Jun 2016 #91

So they're "lless violent" but "murderous fuckers." Cognitive dissonance at its finest. Scuba Jun 2016 #92

wow did you misread my words AntiBank Jun 2016 #93

Then I apologize and plead only that your assertion that the US would have a civil war over the 2A.. Scuba Jun 2016 #102

Thwre are so many nutters, I think several million, who would get into a shooting war AntiBank Jun 2016 #103

What secret list are you talking about? Darb Jun 2016 #13

The government terror lists. hack89 Jun 2016 #15

No, I didn't support the Patriot Act, derrrr. Darb Jun 2016 #19

Yet you support the watch lists the Patriot Act created. hack89 Jun 2016 #21

I support common sense gun control. Darb Jun 2016 #22

Guilty until proven innocent. There we have it. hack89 Jun 2016 #23

You are significant only in the helping hand you lend Darb Jun 2016 #25

And *your* collective guilt-tripping is bullshit, as your efforts are nowhere near honest... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #26

In come the re-reinforcements. WhooHoo. Darb Jun 2016 #30

I despise the NRA, and your proclamations of moral superiority are mere demagoguery friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #32

Ok, got it. Darb Jun 2016 #36

I don't plan to change. hack89 Jun 2016 #27

Call you out. Darb Jun 2016 #31

Sorry. Don't care what you think. hack89 Jun 2016 #33

Maybe if I paid you. Darb Jun 2016 #35

Your game is weaker than normal tonight. hack89 Jun 2016 #38

WhooHoo. I win again. Darb Jun 2016 #40

Of course you won. You struck a major blow for gun control. hack89 Jun 2016 #44

Maybe if you did more than wear out keyboards... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #39

"My hands are perfectly clean" progressoid Jun 2016 #96

Darb and I have a history hack89 Jun 2016 #97

Speaking of hands, how many guns do you have again? Marengo Jun 2016 #74

more than he needs, less than he wants, to paraphrase Al Franken on Phil Gramm, porn flick investor Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #100

These secret lists have been in place since 2001. All lists, whether to kill or silence, originate ancianita Jun 2016 #58

I agree with you. RAFisher Jun 2016 #57

You do realize assault weapons were banned before? L. Coyote Jun 2016 #62

Then reinstate the assault weapons ban, but like Connecticut's, so we never again sell AR-15s. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #80

If you are on the no fly list or the terrorist watch list, no guns for you! Very simple. Pisces Jun 2016 #10

Make the lists transparent and add due process hack89 Jun 2016 #16

Ted Kennedy was on the no fly list Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #29

Senator Kennedy was never on the No Fly list. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #106

So Bush's TERRAHIST lists sarisataka Jun 2016 #11

So Bush's TERRAHIST lists are cool now? Angel Martin Jun 2016 #17

Makes it even more important to elect Democrats. Darb Jun 2016 #34

a Democrat won't be in WH forever nt Angel Martin Jun 2016 #37

He may not have been on the watch list any more, passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #20

He wasn't - you are correct JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #76

SECOND AMENDMENT SECOND AMENDMENT SECOND AMENDMENT... LynneSin Jun 2016 #24

He probably wasn't on one of the lists. Calista241 Jun 2016 #28

Is that all that's required to get on a list these days? sarisataka Jun 2016 #41

Love the redress page, so usefull Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #47

And if you check sarisataka Jun 2016 #51

Lol. nt Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #52

Sensible gun laws should be passed, why some ask, simply there are some people who are Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #42

Obama should just declare a national emergency, and implement the law anyway bluestateguy Jun 2016 #43

that sounds more like something Trump would do JustinL Jun 2016 #60

Seriously?! You want a dictator, not a president! NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #81

Heh. The ACLU is now an NRA TalkingPoint® in his thread. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #109

Absolutely shameful and disgusting sentiment. Lucky for us, Mr. Obama is not a dictator tritsofme Jun 2016 #105

I would have thought the crack about the 3 white male judges gave it away as sarcasm bluestateguy Jun 2016 #107

It is frustratingly difficult to tell these days... tritsofme Jun 2016 #108

How do you fight a war on terror when the party in power are enabling the terrorists? Initech Jun 2016 #45

both parties enable the terrorists when they both support empiric wars AntiBank Jun 2016 #56

what secret list was he on? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #46

Security professionals are exempt from gun control Bengi Jun 2016 #48

So you want "the gay community" to hate a religion of 1.6 billion, 23% of earth's population. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #64

The key is selectivity. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #83

So, you are doubling down. Why not distinguish violent fundamentalists from everyone? L. Coyote Jun 2016 #88

Oh, for fuck sake. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #89

The same place its outrage at Christianity? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #71

What's really cool is that you don't seem anything at all like a troll Orrex Jun 2016 #73

As a member of the gay community justiceischeap Jun 2016 #79

Fundamental problem, this post is not being fully truthful. It was not a bill, it was an amendment AntiBank Jun 2016 #50

Yep. It was theater, nothing more. NT. herding cats Jun 2016 #63

To be fair, the post truthfully reports what MSNBC said. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #65

For what little it's worth I get why it was introduced to the bill herding cats Jun 2016 #67

I guess I worded it wrong, I meant the article was dodgy, not the poster AntiBank Jun 2016 #68

This article is a lie. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #53

And Republicans voted the way they did because they support the ACLU, right? L. Coyote Jun 2016 #66

Then make the list more accurate or scale it, if someone is on the list it should be definate that uponit7771 Jun 2016 #70

Turns out he wasn't on the watch list... PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #78

People on the Terrorism watch list should not buy guns Gothmog Jun 2016 #82

Agreed wholeheartedly. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #84

Why not just create an execution list and put the NRA leadership on it? NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #85

Of course. Standard for R's as they force the society to eat itself alive. They always gather money FighttheFuture Jun 2016 #94

One doesn't have miltiple contacts with the FBI if something isn't wrong... Historic NY Jun 2016 #95

Hasn't Hillary been having "multiple contacts" with the FBI lately.... anoNY42 Jun 2016 #101

Actually not but you'd probably know that if you actually did some real research... Historic NY Jun 2016 #116

Repugs directly created ISIS by John McCain's funding them as Syrian rebels. lark Jun 2016 #98

Three times the FBI had to check him out. Future gun buys should be flagged for another review. Sunlei Jun 2016 #99

This bill must have been written for messaging purposes, to write campaign ads, not become law. tritsofme Jun 2016 #104

Beyond the constitutional questions there is a tactical problem with BushCo warch lists... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #110

K&R! red dog 1 Jun 2016 #112

"if the person is Muslim ... then it’s terrorism rather than someone who may have a mental illness" L. Coyote Jun 2016 #113

That law SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #114

Sometimes government lets us down. ImLiberalNotLeftist Jun 2016 #115