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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
43. Not for long. That is not going to last.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 06:38 PM
Jun 2012

Right now, we live well because of the status and the value of our dollar.

Unfortunately, the industrial prowess that supported the dollar and placed it at the peak of the world's currencies is falling giving way.

I read an article today (posted on DU from the Daily News) about a Bible manufacturer who is outsourcing jobs to the Philippines. That is kind of a last straw for me. We cannot even produce Bibles at a competitive price.

Free trade is just another word for the US allowing foreign companies to dump cheap products into our economy, destroy our industry, decimate our tax base and crush our job market.

Free trade permits the transfer of our economic base to other economies.

We don't have raw materials to export -- not to the extent that countries in the so-called third world do.

Free trade encourages the transfer of our economic base to countries that are closer to the raw materials.

The wealthy don't need to worry they figure. They think that they will always be able to afford stuff. The rest of us know better. Our incomes have declined while the incomes of the rich have increased. That is just the first step. The whole country will become poorer. That is the next step.

I have a friend who can afford to shop in the best stores. Her clothes are still well made. I can't afford those stores. My clothes are really cheap. Back in the late 1980s, the big department stores, Buffums, Bullocks, the good quality middle class stores, sold their stock cheap and closed down.

They have been replaced by stores that sell poorly made Chinese and other foreign clothing. (I don't need to name them. They are the only places that middle class and poor people can shop.) Have fashions changed? Yes. But style changes have covered up an invasion of downright shoddy sewing and flimsy fabrics.

The same is true in nearly every area of our economy.

Think of all the Americans who are now buying computers made in Asia. How long do you think that our dollar will be valued enough to motivate the Asian manufacturers to sell them to us at prices we can afford? What are we selling to Asians in return for those computers? Bible factories? Factory equipment? Technology? Won't be long they will surpass in those areas too.

I am utterly pessimistic. Republicans are idiots who can't see further than their noses. At the moment they are rolling in dollars, but what they don't realize is that those dollars are probably worth more now than they will ever be in the future.

And when American businesses go to sell in countries in which English is not the primary language, they will find cultural barriers, racism and other problems that they cannot imagine.

That creak is the tipping point to the fascist state, PDJane Jun 2012 #1
Technically, it almost always probably was. But there was a time you could... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #5
If we aren't exceptional why do we get to use up so much more resources per capita than others? dkf Jun 2012 #11
I keep getting hammered when I point that out. PDJane Jun 2012 #13
Are pigs exceptional just because they are, well, pigs? n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #22
And we are the pigs? Lol. dkf Jun 2012 #27
Thought you might like that one <G> n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #45
Not for long. That is not going to last. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #43
Buy vintage or used - I will NOT pay for clothes Made in China adigal Jun 2012 #57
Excellent analysis MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #2
2000 was the tipping point. ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #9
I see two different dates airplaneman Jun 2012 #14
It maybe can be fixed after some period of time, but it's what's going to... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #12
i think the development of fascism in Italy is a better analogy. sudopod Jun 2012 #29
But even Germany got fixed Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #41
Fixed how? Plucketeer Jun 2012 #53
Perhaps we should look to the Scandanavian countries for some guidance MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #55
Wish I could give you a good argument. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #3
It's a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. Zalatix Jun 2012 #4
"...and The Road for everyone else." (Shudder) That's a... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #21
Most people don't think it's THAT bad. Zalatix Jun 2012 #30
barbara satan bush and her eugenics sickness coming to roost. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2012 #36
Which is why President Obama said we're entering into an era of social Darwinism. Zalatix Jun 2012 #48
I feel it's like a run-away train. Alexander Cockburn wrote an article "So Who's the FAscist Here?" rhett o rick Jun 2012 #6
"How can we get a corrupt Congress to reform itself?" I don't think it can. I think we've... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #33
I am afraid I agree. We have crossed the line. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #34
People hate it when you mention mick063 Jun 2012 #7
agree Mick oldhippydude Jun 2012 #15
I agree, plez see post 6. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #35
Apt in some respects, not in others kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #40
your choices ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #8
I too believe that we have crossed the Rubicon me b zola Jun 2012 #10
That's similiar to what I was trying to say here......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #16
And there's the rub: Even if you could get fair elections, you still... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #58
What urgently needs to be done is to liquidate the empire Wolf Frankula Jun 2012 #17
I have been hearing that creak ever since the 2002passage of the Authorization to Use Military Force patrice Jun 2012 #18
I agree that it's too late even for reforms......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #19
Nobody is going to do that........ Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2012 #24
Too bad then........... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #20
As long as we keep increasing military spending ...everything will be fine. L0oniX Jun 2012 #23
Please. You're forgetting tax cuts for the rich, er, job GODS. nt valerief Jun 2012 #26
I keep saying we're the new USSR. We're the USSA. nt valerief Jun 2012 #25
Did you see the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" Dont call me Shirley Jun 2012 #38
The VP in the movie screams "Cheney". Odin2005 Jun 2012 #62
I heard it a few years ago. caseymoz Jun 2012 #28
Yes kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #32
Of course progressives arent the problem but the centrists would tell you different. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #39
Centrists are ... kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #46
The Third Way apologists are not "centrists." woo me with science Jun 2012 #51
I completely agree. However, it's the centrists that fight for status quo rhett o rick Jun 2012 #52
Problems are mounting faster than we can tackle them CanonRay Jun 2012 #54
People are just hearing this "creak" now? kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #31
Bush I was the tipping point (and Clinton pushed us farther) FarCenter Jun 2012 #37
I wish you were wrong.. 99Forever Jun 2012 #44
I thought that point was passed long ago stupidicus Jun 2012 #47
You make your point really well. bleever Jun 2012 #49
Sadly,....I agree /nt Dragonfli Jun 2012 #50
This is a hard thread to read but so damn important I carefully read every post riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #56
There is always someone saying this treestar Jun 2012 #59
At what point felix_numinous Jun 2012 #60
We have been kicking the can down the road for over 30 years Odin2005 Jun 2012 #61
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