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ProudToBeBlueInRhody

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104. This thread is amazing, I have people from "both sides" who don't get it.

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:47 PM

Jun 2016

If there is evidence of this, we follow it.

Just because he used these things to his advantage doesn't mean he was gay.

He may have used them to abuse and kill others. SHOULD WE NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT OR THOSE POSSIBLE VICTIMS?

If he was gay, SO WHAT?

It's likely his religion and nutty father's upbringing is what made him conflicted because that's what religion does. Guilt, shame....

"oh, no, not possible it's one or the other no ISIS wannabe could be gay or conflicted" is what it sounds like from some of you.

He'd rather be known as an Islamic terrorist than a gay man, maybe? HOW FUCKED UP IS THAT?

Religion does that. It does it to many Christians and we have NO PROBLEM calling that out too!

No mistake, he HATED those people in the club. FREE PEOPLE. FREE PEOPLE LIVING THEIR LIVES AND NOT CARING WHO KNOWS IT.

Regardless of who and what made him, he HATED THAT and THEM.

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Orlando Shooter Was Reportedly a Regular at Pulse and Had a Profile on Gay Dating App [View all] RockaFowler Jun 2016 OP

I have been expecting this bonemachine Jun 2016 #1

Me too n/t PasadenaTrudy Jun 2016 #5

It played out just a little different in my imagination bonemachine Jun 2016 #25

LIKE TheDebbieDee Jun 2016 #26

And religious repression. /nt Marr Jun 2016 #67

yup... bonemachine Jun 2016 #74

What does this mean? Was he gay? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #2

Yes, a self-hating gay person. brush Jun 2016 #3

This worries me some. lpbk2713 Jun 2016 #6

Yeah, once he finds out his murdering son regularly hung out at a gay club. brush Jun 2016 #14

Just my opinion here RockaFowler Jun 2016 #4

I think you're on to something... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #7

Larry Craig Aerows Jun 2016 #92

It means that he frequented the venue. sibelian Jun 2016 #76

I'd wondered why he drove 2hrs away Roland99 Jun 2016 #8

There are plenty of gay bars here in this area RockaFowler Jun 2016 #9

Bingo! Roland99 Jun 2016 #12

+1, that also puts the many disputing Islamic factions he supported into perspective... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #40

I also was wondering Strelnikov_ Jun 2016 #13

And a registered lancer78 Jun 2016 #42

Self loathing gay conservative Trajan Jun 2016 #10

Except he was registered Democratic Party. yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #30

No he wasn't, that's brietbart stuff uponit7771 Jun 2016 #41

Oh maybe. I guess some may use that as a sourse yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #52

Unfortunately, Yes, this asshole was a registered Democrat. cureautismnow Jun 2016 #54

Is that an official FL voter registration site? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #56

Yes, it is. It includes 14 total states now, too. cureautismnow Jun 2016 #58

thx much uponit7771 Jun 2016 #61

Looks like a site people can edit ck4829 Jun 2016 #120

And the board of elections is in on it too. Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #57

Sure. Breitbart stuff. Sorry to disappoint but... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #59

Just because he was registered D doesn't mean he wasn't conservative. LeftRant Jun 2016 #117

Really? This is the conslusion you drew? That he was a conservative? Ex Lurker Jun 2016 #62

Because that's CHEATING. sibelian Jun 2016 #73

Having a primary focus on gay hatred Trajan Jun 2016 #125

Radical Islam IS conservative Nevernose Jun 2016 #126

This guy used a dating app too.... Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #11

I guess the question is whether you believe him. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #16

Who is 'him' and what is he saying? You are the one making an assertion, I offered another Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #18

It appears he (the guy from your story) targeted gays, just like the Orlando killer BootinUp Jun 2016 #23

He killed others too, they kill gay people becuase they are bigots. Accept that. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #28

I love your hate. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #29

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #34

People who murder gay people for being gay are bigots. You do not agree? Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #35

I don't think you care about BNW's "hate" one way or the other. sibelian Jun 2016 #80

I reject attempts by people to read my mind. Simple as that. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #82

what i get from this is he was trying to get info for the attacks JI7 Jun 2016 #17

That's what the OP and everyone in this thread are saying. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #19

by "anyone" i meant the people who said they saw him JI7 Jun 2016 #21

But there are plenty of Gay Bars in this Area RockaFowler Jun 2016 #22

Yes you and other straights think that way. Note who it is that is finding your position to be not Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #31

Strange response RockaFowler Jun 2016 #36

His wife knew he went there. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #38

It's because of his faith RockaFowler Jun 2016 #39

"blame LGBT people"?? arcane1 Jun 2016 #43

The inference needn't be overt. sibelian Jun 2016 #78

The inference needn't exist either. arcane1 Jun 2016 #83

True, but the propensity to make said inferences sibelian Jun 2016 #87

This is kind of a regular thing gollygee Jun 2016 #102

It soothes them. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #127

Because Disney is in Orlando and that's another place he was checking out to attack JI7 Jun 2016 #123

Well, apparently his wife went with him to this place joeybee12 Jun 2016 #15

He didn't take his wife there according to this report RockaFowler Jun 2016 #20

If she didn't go, she did know about it... joeybee12 Jun 2016 #24

Do people stake out a place for three years? n/t malaise Jun 2016 #66

Well well well yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #27

Whatever anyone WANTS it to mean, yeoman. sibelian Jun 2016 #32

I agree. A lot of speculation. I'll watch the show tonight yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #33

DU is full of gay baiting. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #37

Blue, he may have been stalking and possibly assaulting or killing gay men prior to this ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #48

He might have been a lizard head under a mask. He might have been a spooky ghost. sibelian Jun 2016 #68

What a dumb thing to say ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #85

I am not interested in WHAT ELSE he did or did not do, or what else he MIGHT have done sibelian Jun 2016 #93

You didn't even read anything I said, did you? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #97

His college roommate says he asked him out in a romantic way Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #130

This Isn't Gay Baiting. This Is Pursuit Of The Truth...Homophobia Can Kill. writes3000 Jun 2016 #50

It DOES make the killing less the responsibility of the community at large. sibelian Jun 2016 #63

I disagree. It's our problem as a society if someone ecstatic Jun 2016 #96

unnnn, this incident is all of our problem IMHO uponit7771 Jun 2016 #107

How is it gay baiting? Matrosov Jun 2016 #64

I don't know why you're even angry, BNW. sibelian Jun 2016 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Jun 2016 #122

I heard he was a registered democrat. tenderfoot Jun 2016 #44

Breitbart had that one RockaFowler Jun 2016 #45

He voted at the polls in 2014 in St. Lucie County. cureautismnow Jun 2016 #65

I don't think it would make much sense for any Muslims to be a registered Republican... glowing Jun 2016 #84

That's a good point, there are also plenty of conservative democrats uponit7771 Jun 2016 #110

Yeah that was a real woot! Rex Jun 2016 #129

Check out any murders of gay men in Florida ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #46

He kind of was already RockaFowler Jun 2016 #47

Ok, but you know the difference between a serial and a mass killer, right? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #49

Oh yeah RockaFowler Jun 2016 #51

Not offended at all, just edgy today. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #53

. . . RockaFowler Jun 2016 #60

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #55

Looks like from Hayes it should be gay data app(S), multiple apps uponit7771 Jun 2016 #69

This is looking less and less like terrorism philosslayer Jun 2016 #71

Agreed. nt. BootinUp Jun 2016 #72

he called during the attack with allegiance to ISIS JI7 Jun 2016 #75

Think about it.... philosslayer Jun 2016 #77

think about it. he shot and killed a bunch of lgbt people JI7 Jun 2016 #81

I didnt believe that one from the start. Seemed too fabricated. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #124

and 4 other conflicting groups uponit7771 Jun 2016 #89

not as conflicting as killing a bunch of gays because one is gay themself JI7 Jun 2016 #91

And also swore allegiance to.... Adrahil Jun 2016 #103

Excellent point philosslayer Jun 2016 #105

Hezbollah is anti gay JI7 Jun 2016 #106

Yes it is. Adrahil Jun 2016 #116

I'll take his words as to what it was. 840high Jun 2016 #121

What a lovely twist of definitions. sibelian Jun 2016 #79

Funny ain't it? Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #128

Another right wing wet dream goes down in flames tenderfoot Jun 2016 #86

No. One is created: "gay-on-gay violence." David__77 Jun 2016 #131

I really hope your world view is proven true tenderfoot Jun 2016 #133

I don't understand your statement. David__77 Jun 2016 #134

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #88

Go away already, I beg you ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #90

Clearly many on this thread agree with me philosslayer Jun 2016 #95

I'm sure you hate Barney Frank too ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #98

*sigh* philosslayer Jun 2016 #100

When taken in full context, it does seem like, ecstatic Jun 2016 #94

most gay men don't have hated towards women. straight men are more likely to be hateful and attack JI7 Jun 2016 #101

Was referring to homophobic gay men, who in my experience tend to have an anger, not just towards ecstatic Jun 2016 #108

any studies on this ? if we want facts it's straight men who are most likely to attack women JI7 Jun 2016 #109

Well I was ecstatic Jun 2016 #115

Interesting... this puts a new perspective on the situation. DCBob Jun 2016 #99

This thread is amazing, I have people from "both sides" who don't get it. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #104

Agreed. nt. BootinUp Jun 2016 #111

From the recent reports he wasn't even an ISIS wanna be, he reported supporting multiple factions uponit7771 Jun 2016 #112

There is evidence he was religious. BootinUp Jun 2016 #113

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #114

I find is terrible. This was a terrorist act. David__77 Jun 2016 #132

Sadly, this seems to be what fundamental religion does to people. PatrickforO Jun 2016 #118

ISIS enid602 Jun 2016 #119