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Chan790

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39. Thank you for that.

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:13 PM

Jun 2016

It never gets said enough...America's gun-nuttery is an ingrained cultural artifact, much like the oppression of minorities, and will require active combating of that culture to effect change.

Someday, we're going to look back on days like Orlando and say "What the fuck took us so long to rein in gun-nuttery and enforce the 2nd amendment as written; not as the NRA and RKBA activists wish it was written?"

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"The largest mass shooting in U.S. history" Really? [View all] trof Jun 2016 OP

I was very surprised that 'lyin' Brian Williams corrected that today malaise Jun 2016 #1

I'm anxiously awaiting details on the rescue. n/t ronnie624 Jun 2016 #12

America has many many sins to atone for. BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #2

Fred Phelps? Is that you? pipoman Jun 2016 #5

dafuq? Schema Thing Jun 2016 #6

David Duke? Is that you? BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #7

Delete this disturbing image Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #42

seriously delete those images a lynching & burning cross irisblue Jun 2016 #51

Your post is a clear TOS violation. Why don't you take down the images? xocet Jun 2016 #78

Put a warning on your post. cwydro Jun 2016 #102

I don't think that correction changes much, does it, trof? sibelian Jun 2016 #3

Nope. Not perspective. trof Jun 2016 #9

Well, that's a lesson for us all, right there, I guess. sibelian Jun 2016 #15

thank you for pointing this out. niyad Jun 2016 #4

Why is it that when GLBT people are targets we get these Oppression Olympics type posts Maven Jun 2016 #8

My point is accuracy in reporting. And not hype and fear mongering. trof Jun 2016 #10

I too prefer accurate statements over inaccurate ones. cheapdate Jun 2016 #52

How about 'worst mass shooting in *modern* American history' Maven Jun 2016 #69

Or perhaps cannabis_flower Jun 2016 #75

Great Post! afertal Jun 2016 #70

I don't think that the horror GLBT victims today are diminished by the historical record of PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #21

Good question melman Jun 2016 #32

Oppression Olympics mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2016 #46

this -- sick of it obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #47

Excellent fucking point. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #48

Common passtime these days. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #50

I have to agree...there were a spate of these posts on Facebook noiretextatique Jun 2016 #65

The people that post that stuff melman Jun 2016 #67

Nor do they care. GAY noiretextatique Jun 2016 #68

Yep. It's denying the victim. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #77

You're right. johnp3907 Jun 2016 #98

Weren't we at war lancer78 Jun 2016 #11

Oh we probably were. trof Jun 2016 #13

Thats kind of how wars work Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #55

you might want to read "an indigenous people's history of the united states" niyad Jun 2016 #82

We were. They weren't. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2016 #23

no war, just some ethnic cleaning and land theft KG Jun 2016 #26

Why do you think it would matter? tabasco Jun 2016 #36

yes lancer78 Jun 2016 #43

No deist99 Jun 2016 #63

we are at war with ISIS right now RussBLib Jun 2016 #73

ISIS? dynamo99 Jun 2016 #90

Depends of the definition of "mass shooting" Thor_MN Jun 2016 #14

I think it is called "mass shooting" when you have one or two shooters n/t TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #16

I thought of that too. WhiteTara Jun 2016 #17

Another example is the Wiyot Indian Island Massacre PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #18

Yeah, but who cares about Sand Creek or Wounded Knee? They were native Americans Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #19

And the Washita., and.... on and on.... pangaia Jun 2016 #49

If you want to correct someone at least get it right. GummyBearz Jun 2016 #20

Colorado was organized as a U.S. territory in 1861, John Poet Jun 2016 #22

A self delete is in order from you actually. blackspade Jun 2016 #31

It may be GummyBearz Jun 2016 #33

Colorado was acquired in three different US land Acquisitions blackspade Jun 2016 #41

Excellent point. Laffy Kat Jun 2016 #24

the OP is about the Sand Creek Massacre Stuart G Jun 2016 #34

I've had the book on my bookshelf for years. Laffy Kat Jun 2016 #45

In the early part of the 20th century there were 4 incidents of whites mass shooting blacks in kimbutgar Jun 2016 #25

"Let's make sure he is soundly defeated in November"............great sentence...we must make sure.. Stuart G Jun 2016 #38

Good point. blackspade Jun 2016 #27

Meh Lithos Jun 2016 #28

Here is a book about the way Native Americans were treated.. Stuart G Jun 2016 #29

In a sense, there is a direct line between that bloodshed, and "frontier" violence villager Jun 2016 #30

Thank you for that. Chan790 Jun 2016 #39

Pretty much Scootaloo Jun 2016 #54

Exactly and all those glorifying western movies that sold us jwirr Jun 2016 #84

"..much of it has been suppressed to protect the perpetrators." villager Jun 2016 #85

I'm inclined to agree that there's quite a difference SheilaT Jun 2016 #35

There's also this gollygee Jun 2016 #37

That isnt even close to this mass shooting arely staircase Jun 2016 #40

A nation built on centuries of genocide, US history IS the shooting of people. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #44

I don't think of "government sanctioned massacres" MellowDem Jun 2016 #53

Thank you, trof. nt 7wo7rees Jun 2016 #56

Nowadays "history" seems to often be defined as "Within living memory" arcane1 Jun 2016 #57

Your points are excellent. lapucelle Jun 2016 #60

Agreed. arcane1 Jun 2016 #61

History in schools especially in high school is often a joke. jwirr Jun 2016 #86

The Wounded Knee massacre also had about 150 victims. lapucelle Jun 2016 #58

Commonality? Guns and a targeted minority group. Arazi Jun 2016 #59

How about "The largest nonmilitary mass shooting in U.S. history"? GaYellowDawg Jun 2016 #62

That's not accurate either noiretextatique Jun 2016 #66

237 trumps 150 noiretextatique Jun 2016 #64

Thank You!!! sagetea Jun 2016 #71

while this is true heaven05 Jun 2016 #72

Only for the sake of accuracy in journalism, eh? LanternWaste Jun 2016 #74

. Orrex Jun 2016 #92

What I heard ended with ....since 9/11. Lint Head Jun 2016 #76

by one person. nt Javaman Jun 2016 #79

Nearly 300 Black people killed 9/20/1868 in Opelousas, LA... dsharp88 Jun 2016 #80

Some info... KansDem Jun 2016 #81

Fort Pillow massacre elljay Jun 2016 #83

Let's just go with "this century" nt MrScorpio Jun 2016 #87

Thank you. The minute... zentrum Jun 2016 #88

Thanks! modestybl Jun 2016 #89

Well, if I use your criteria, The battle of Bull Run and Gettysburg rank right up there. Scruffy Rumbler Jun 2016 #91

I know. ananda Jun 2016 #93

I'm sure that this will give great comfort to the victms' loved ones Orrex Jun 2016 #94

OH... Yeah, except for when we did THAT... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #95

Thanks for minimizing our fight. Firebrand Gary Jun 2016 #96

Right? Seriously WTF? Orrex Jun 2016 #99

And with 115 recs melman Jun 2016 #100

Native Americans weren't seen as humans, so they never counted. Scalded Nun Jun 2016 #97

The massacre at Fort Pillow sulphurdunn Jun 2016 #101

it's a contest? really? nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2016 #103

Oh, fer fuck sake. Context is your friend... madinmaryland Jun 2016 #104