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Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:33 PM

Jun 2016

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Does anyone care that the murder rate in the US is lower than it has been in a long time? [View all] NobodyHere Jun 2016 OP

Context? gollygee Jun 2016 #1

As a great comfort to 50 grieving families, maybe? gratuitous Jun 2016 #4

It's more than 50. I imagine every family member of the survivors is grieving today. Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #52

The context for me is NobodyHere Jun 2016 #8

Still the worst internationally for gun violence. panader0 Jun 2016 #19

And that is supposed to make us feel better about the mass murder? Wtf? uppityperson Jun 2016 #2

Does anyone care that the concentration of victims in shootings is higher than ever? onehandle Jun 2016 #3

I'm guessing this is meant to rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #5

Did you dispose of your guns, or are you still availing yourself of the RKBA? Marengo Jun 2016 #41

Shhh lancer78 Jun 2016 #6

Who said anything about banning guns? rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #9

Banning semi-auto rifles lancer78 Jun 2016 #11

That is utter nonsense rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #12

Full-auto guns are currently legal at the federal level. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #26

Bollocks rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #66

Now you have been educated. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #69

But you probably believe in stricter controls on drunk driving. roamer65 Jun 2016 #16

Drinking and driving lancer78 Jun 2016 #25

The killer was getting sloppy drunk at the club during previous visits Fumesucker Jun 2016 #49

He used weapons gained under the system to commit a crime. roamer65 Jun 2016 #65

If you have a CC license 1939 Jun 2016 #73

"is pretty much as strict as can be without banning alcohol." Lonusca Jun 2016 #67

What militia do you belong to? bunnies Jun 2016 #22

More importantly angrychair Jun 2016 #28

"For 500 lives a year, I am not willing to do that" bunnies Jun 2016 #17

I know...right... dhill926 Jun 2016 #38

Where the hell do you pull that 500 a year number from? Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #53

The number of accidental gun deaths is 500-600 per year nationally. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #70

Link? Stats I've seen put accidental gun deaths at 2,500 per year. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #71

There's no such thing as an accidental gun death. Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #72

Forty years of advances in emergency medicine makes a difference struggle4progress Jun 2016 #7

And birth control JI7 Jun 2016 #13

Ding. +1 Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2016 #31

Mass shootings in a age of instant mass awareness of such news. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #10

wtf is your point? bunnies Jun 2016 #14

NRA talking point. Even one unpurchased gun is too high a price to save one life. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #18

Yeah. I just responded upthread bunnies Jun 2016 #20

20 times lancer78 Jun 2016 #27

Did you answer my question about the 500 free deaths yet? bunnies Jun 2016 #33

A drunk driver lancer78 Jun 2016 #40

Stop deflecting metroins Jun 2016 #62

The problem is banning Alcohol failed in the past and will fail again in the future Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #34

purposely obtuse... dhill926 Jun 2016 #39

Right-wing talking point Dem2 Jun 2016 #50

The completely bullshit thing about this comparison is Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #56

I tend to agree Dem2 Jun 2016 #59

Yep, these are posts you expect to see on right-wing gun forums Dem2 Jun 2016 #45

What "right-wing talking points" TeddyR Jun 2016 #55

perhaps, but the year is yet young quaker bill Jun 2016 #15

It's down worldwide, probably because we all stopped using leaded gas Recursion Jun 2016 #21

That's an awful truth. I breathed a lot of lead as a kid in Los Angeles. hunter Jun 2016 #68

The murder rate overall is lower, BUT: Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #23

But the mass shooting frequency lancer78 Jun 2016 #29

Except we constantly have mass shooting. Constantly. scscholar Jun 2016 #36

Thats because lancer78 Jun 2016 #42

Just because media likes to sensationalize them doesn't mean the murders Jim Beard Jun 2016 #61

No, it's not? Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #44

So gun laws in Europe work, except when they dont? Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #57

Far better than in the USA Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #60

How are we doing versus England or France or Germany or Canada or Australia? YouDig Jun 2016 #24

I don't accept that number. Zippyzagnut Jun 2016 #30

How far are you willing lancer78 Jun 2016 #43

The 2nd Amendment can go. IMO. GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #46

Can the 4th and 5th lancer78 Jun 2016 #47

How about the 8th? TeddyR Jun 2016 #54

Like saying the death rate is down for cancer stopbush Jun 2016 #32

Recent data shows a clear upward trend in firearm injuries and a clear downward trend struggle4progress Jun 2016 #35

I still piss on your guns. hunter Jun 2016 #37

No, not really. GaYellowDawg Jun 2016 #48

No doubt a result of good guys with guns. /sarcasm BootinUp Jun 2016 #51

Not actually true - see within... Dem2 Jun 2016 #58

What's motor vehicle deaths have to with murder rate? Kilgore Jun 2016 #63

Nothing. Dem2 Jun 2016 #64

Got it Kilgore Jun 2016 #76

do you care that the murder rate and crime involving guns is way too high? etherealtruth Jun 2016 #74

Facts don't matter in today's political climate. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #75