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68. Scoping out targets might make one a conspirator.

Reply to jberryhill (Reply #66)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:33 PM

Jun 2016

Can you cite case law that misprision cannot apply to conspiracy?

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Orlando shooter's current wife reportedly had knowledge of his intent... [View all] 63splitwindow Jun 2016 OP

And she's not in jail because? vdogg Jun 2016 #1

IF - don't assume that in her interviews she told them that she knew. Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #65

This is a pretty serious charge to lob LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #100

From the FBI vdogg Jun 2016 #107

because the meme that he acted alone without any community knowledge would no longer hold MariaThinks Jun 2016 #101

Widow, I think, not current wife 6chars Jun 2016 #2

Did he have a current wife and ex-wife? JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #4

Yes Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #28

True... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #5

The ex wife that apparently didn't report his domestic violence to the police. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #13

Because we know how seriously the police often treat domestic violence Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #30

Exactly.... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #37

His ex-wife from New Jersey was with him 8 years ago, only about 4 months appalachiablue Jun 2016 #33

A misdemeanor DV conviction is forever. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #44

That's wonderful like Hindsight is 20/20. How was a frightened, 19 year old appalachiablue Jun 2016 #63

I don't care how old she was. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #88

Given your experience and steadfast solutions to the problems I think you appalachiablue Jun 2016 #93

Jesus Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #94

If you read the person's full account of their own experience appalachiablue Jun 2016 #95

+100 Duppers Jun 2016 #96

I am not a public speaker. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #98

Good for you, that's wonderful and a great service. All the best in life and work. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #99

You are right and courageous. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #102

Not attacking here GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #70

No. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #73

Ok. GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #74

It's not irrelevant. It's a missed opportunity. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #85

Didn't Disney step up their security some years ago? JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #3

More so in the past year Carly Jun 2016 #11

Yes, but. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #15

It says Downtown Disney. kimmylavin Jun 2016 #17

In DisneyLand they screen everyone going to Downtown Disney now. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #25

When Did This Start? SoCalMusicLover Jun 2016 #26

Not sure, I was there in January for the Star Wars marathon weekend. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #40

they screen at the parks but not downtown disney Takket Jun 2016 #62

In California at Disneyland's Downtown Disney they do screen now PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #64

Exactly, no security at Down Town Disney.. It has theaters, restaurants, glowing Jun 2016 #27

In Disneyland they screen everyone going to Downtown Disney now. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #41

Last time I was in Orlando, Downtown Disney is a rather open area with no security like that glowing Jun 2016 #67

I was there in February and they don't. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #87

Sounds like Spring Training MLB Stadiums do a better job HockeyMom Jun 2016 #105

But Downtown Disney is really just a shopping mall. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #106

If she knew... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #6

It sounds to me as if this federal law enforcement source is assuming herding cats Jun 2016 #7

and what will you do if it turns out she did know? like so many did with the other radical islam MariaThinks Jun 2016 #103

I won't do anything. herding cats Jun 2016 #104

I'm not a lawyer jimlup Jun 2016 #8

Spousal Privilege bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #12

That wouldn't prevent her from voluntarily contacting authorities to try to prevent an atrocity. WillowTree Jun 2016 #20

Privledge does not cover future crimes Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #78

So she helped him plan and kept the secrets, why is she not in jail? Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #9

Do you know that she is not in custody? 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #10

Gee.......maybe they decided to collect the facts first. WillowTree Jun 2016 #21

I dont think there is any legal duty to stop a crime if you arent a cop. arely staircase Jun 2016 #14

Misprision of a Felony. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #16

Opinions would differ drastically... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #18

True. All very early in the investigation too. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #19

"conceal" would seem to require overt action to keep it from being found out arely staircase Jun 2016 #24

Moral obligation, no question about it. closeupready Jun 2016 #35

This reminds me of the friends of Dylan Roof, the Charleston, SC appalachiablue Jun 2016 #36

This line from the original quote... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #42

"having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony" jberryhill Jun 2016 #39

Sounds like conspiracy to me. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #45

It says "actual commission" jberryhill Jun 2016 #47

The statute for conspiracy defines that. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #56

I feel bad for your law school jberryhill Jun 2016 #57

I am not a lawyer and I do not play one on tv. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #60

She's not a conspirator unless she aided the action jberryhill Jun 2016 #66

Scoping out targets might make one a conspirator. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #68

Read the statute jberryhill Jun 2016 #69

Wait, you're saying that the act of helping to scope out possible places to prayin4rain Jun 2016 #71

She was in no way involved in what happened jberryhill Jun 2016 #75

Agreed. prayin4rain Jun 2016 #82

If you know that this was going happen GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #72

Without at least one overt act, I don't think so. arely staircase Jun 2016 #89

What about the moral duty to save 49 innocent lives? n/t totodeinhere Jun 2016 #115

I have said that in this thread. nt arely staircase Jun 2016 #118

It's possilbe the wife didn't know at the time and twigged to the purpose after the shootings Fumesucker Jun 2016 #22

God, I can not believe the comments in this thread.. pangaia Jun 2016 #23

It's sickening really ck4829 Jun 2016 #79

Tsarnaev's Wife Was Never Charged Either SoCalMusicLover Jun 2016 #29

in fairness to her, I wonder what would have been done if she'd reported it renate Jun 2016 #31

The killer was frequently under FBI observation and questioning so she would not have had Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #76

On the other hand... spinbaby Jun 2016 #112

I'm guessing that she thought that if she Ilsa Jun 2016 #32

Spouses aren't compelled to testify against each other. closeupready Jun 2016 #34

You are very, very confused... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #38

If you know what "compelled" means, then you know I was saying closeupready Jun 2016 #46

The fact that she could not be compelled to testify against her husband... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #50

Done here, thanks. closeupready Jun 2016 #51

I have no idea what you mean by the "legal level" jberryhill Jun 2016 #52

Read the post I was responding to... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #53

I happen to be an attorney jberryhill Jun 2016 #55

Let me make this simple for you jberryhill Jun 2016 #58

Ok F Lee Bailey...... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #59

Yes I read an unsourced piece of information jberryhill Jun 2016 #84

Who are you--- 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #86

He's a respected member of the bar who just took you msanthrope Jun 2016 #97

You carry his briefcase? nt 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #108

he is a scholar and a gentleman, he would offer to carry mine. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #109

"Wife of Orlando shooter could soon face charges: source" 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #113

Disney would have been a different outcome. trumad Jun 2016 #43

Maybe she thought the NSA was going to stop him. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2016 #48

A few years back here in Michigan notadmblnd Jun 2016 #49

It's pretty much all silliness here jberryhill Jun 2016 #54

Or is it Clarence? 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #61

I read online that current wife has clammed up. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #77

Can you remember (or figure out) where (at what site)? nt 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #80

I don't remember, but I'll make a quick search. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #81

Here. Orlando Sentinal, about halfway down. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #83

Thanks. 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #92

Even if she is wholly innocent of any possible crime whatever AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #90

The latest news is that he visited the Pulse nightclub frequently over the past 3 years and he bjo59 Jun 2016 #91

Information today from CNN 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #110

Latest update... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #111

Latest update... Mandos the Judge Jun 2016 #116

Latest update... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #117

I bet she gets the death penalty if it turns out she had any planning involvement ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #114