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L. Coyote

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60. Because it is not true.

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:44 PM

Jun 2016

Homophobia is cultural and so is religion. We don't blame one cultural trait for its sibling trait. Why not blame homophobia and misogyny for religion?

Correlation is not causation.

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Why are people so averse to acknowledging that organized religion, almost ALL organized religion [View all] boston bean Jun 2016 OP

I'm an agnostic with atheist tendencies bonemachine Jun 2016 #1

Well said! TexasProgresive Jun 2016 #2

Do you think what I wrote is muslim bashing? boston bean Jun 2016 #3

No bonemachine Jun 2016 #5

So do you think this post is muslim "baiting"? boston bean Jun 2016 #17

Yes. bonemachine Jun 2016 #20

I don't see it that way. boston bean Jun 2016 #22

Muslims are not the worst offenders here though whatthehey Jun 2016 #75

No, you're "organized religion bashing" whathehell Jun 2016 #77

I luv ya, bone. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #71

it is worse when it comes to Islam also JI7 Jun 2016 #4

Considering all of the things that are implicitly (or interpretationally) authorized in the Bible... TwilightZone Jun 2016 #8

but Christians who support gays usually don't try to defend their position JI7 Jun 2016 #10

"Muslims should say it doesn't matter...when it comes to public laws" TwilightZone Jun 2016 #34

they usually say Islam or the quran does not approve of it JI7 Jun 2016 #37

Westboro Baptist and generations of GOP politicians say the Bible doesn't approve of it, either. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #39

most dem politicians are christians also and oppose those republicans JI7 Jun 2016 #43

And most American Muslims don't think one should go shoot 103 people in a gay bar in Florida. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #47

yeah. But their argument should be that it's wrong to do it regardless of JI7 Jun 2016 #48

You don't serm to know much about Islam eom noiretextatique Jun 2016 #66

Despite their rhetoric, Westboro doesn't go out killing people.. whathehell Jun 2016 #78

How so? True Earthling Jun 2016 #14

I think you missed the point. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #33

Actually I think you missed the point LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #44

I have no idea where you got the idea that I'm excusing anything. Quite the opposite. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #53

Excusing may be the wrong word LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #57

I missed the point because that's not what you said. True Earthling Jun 2016 #45

"the post wasn't criticizing "all Muslims" - au contraire TwilightZone Jun 2016 #50

That's a criticism? True Earthling Jun 2016 #58

Agreed. nt. BootinUp Jun 2016 #26

Have Islamists killed more Christians? bvar22 Jun 2016 #84

Because the vast majority of 'believers' are peaceful enough. randome Jun 2016 #6

Then how is it that several countires execute gay people under Islamic law, if the majority are Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #12

I meant in the entirety of religion. Most people who are religious to some degree or another... randome Jun 2016 #28

Here's the problem romanic Jun 2016 #68

To more directly answer your question: bonemachine Jun 2016 #7

So then we should discuss the real paradigm, straight people who attack LGBT. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #13

Well... bonemachine Jun 2016 #15

Because it's not true. B2G Jun 2016 #9

Really? progressoid Jun 2016 #24

Until last year wryter2000 Jun 2016 #27

Woo hoo! progressoid Jun 2016 #65

Because it's ridiculously false. Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #11

Standard procedure Matrosov Jun 2016 #16

It's not that it has NOTHING to do with religion bonemachine Jun 2016 #21

The shooter was an ISIS sympathizer. It WAS terrorism. Quantess Jun 2016 #69

ISIS represents Islam in a similar fashion to how bonemachine Jun 2016 #74

Agreed. I personally know some very nice muslim women who dress western and show their hair Quantess Jun 2016 #81

...and from what we know bonemachine Jun 2016 #82

Okay. He was obviously mentally disturbed. Quantess Jun 2016 #83

I don't see anything in religion Mendocino Jun 2016 #18

Because it is not true? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #19

Jesus said nothing against gay people that I'm aware of steve2470 Jun 2016 #23

Some links to back you up Tsiyu Jun 2016 #25

But they don't act on that impulse. randome Jun 2016 #31

Right. Christians are so peaceful Tsiyu Jun 2016 #35

I specifically meant the big-mouths you linked to. The ones calling for death. randome Jun 2016 #59

Look, I'll be blunt: What is the foundational ur-narrative of all 3 western Monotheisms? Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #29

the timeline thing is bs also JI7 Jun 2016 #42

It's an observation, nothing more. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #52

Islam is the world's fastest growing religion. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #30

I'm not Skittles Jun 2016 #32

I always thought it was pretty damn obvious myself. Mr Maru Jun 2016 #36

Because people can't separate religion from the people nadine_mn Jun 2016 #38

Okay lets separate religion from the people LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #51

Because of Episcopalians, UUs, some Sufi groups, and others who aren't. MisterFred Jun 2016 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author MisterFred Jun 2016 #41

Islam is the enemy of Christianity...Christians are GOP friendly. ileus Jun 2016 #46

Many here are Hypocrites when it comes to Islam FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #49

Islam is seen as a Third World relgion, and many progressives are reluctant to criticize Ex Lurker Jun 2016 #54

because the only major religion that is consistently killing people, gay people included, MariaThinks Jun 2016 #55

haven't read any of the thread, but this immediately came to mind: Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #56

Because it is not true. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #60

"none of us can close our eyes to the fact that we do face enemies who use their distorted version Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #61

The question is whether it's "distorted" MellowDem Jun 2016 #62

I do not believe it is anything like a "vast majority", myself. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #63

Because most, maybe even on DU, identify with one of them... MellowDem Jun 2016 #64

I will always side with women, and gays, and trangenedered, and cartoonists who draw Muhammed, Quantess Jun 2016 #67

A-FUCKING-MEN! backscatter712 Jun 2016 #70

Hey hey hey... reign88 Jun 2016 #80

Not me. This is something we agree upon. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #72

This is one of those rare instances in which you and I seem to agree. Scuba Jun 2016 #73

Yep. A pox on all religion and nonsensical supernatural bullshit. May it wither and die. Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #76

I absolutely agree with you. Kurovski Jun 2016 #79