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glowing

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17. Because our congress is bought! If it weren't for their sponsors,
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 07:51 AM
Jun 2016

we would have responsible gun laws and no one would be buying any assault weapons AT ALL!!! So, now you expect that this same congress is going to choose to boycott OPEC? As it is today, we have Hillary kissing the rings of Saudi Princes, and we know, absolutely know, their deplorable manner in which they treat women, LGBT, and anyone who isn't "in the family".

When the 9/11 families wanted to be able to sue Saisi Arsbia for its involvement in the attacks, President Obama spoke forcefully against a bill like that passing through congress. We know that one of the biggest reasons for going to war in Iraq was also due to oil and profits wanted on the market and to be controlled by corporations. (Before we went to the country and Iraq was its own independent run state, he wasn't playing "nice" with OPEC, he would sell barrels for less than the monopolized group wished to sell for. Also, they were a sovereign country that did not owe or base their money in the World Bank. And the country was under such strict embargoes from the first Iraq War, that they lacked basic services needed for many to survive. That embargo and lack of trade led to an estimated 1/2 million Irawi children dying because of lack of services). And today much of Northern Iraq near the Syrain border is in mayhem due to ISIS.

Libya is in free fall due to intervention as well. And like Iraq, they similarly had "state owned oil" services, a modicum of sectarian culture. (And in regards to Libya, it seems that oppositional leaders to Ghadffi placed donations into a certain Foundation, and then a certain push via State, France, wanting some of these colonial money back, and the media pushed for western military intervention). Now, ISIS and violence is destroying the Libian people. Again, influence from multi-national oil conglomerates that wanted that oil, well placed "donations", and a media, owned by a handful of powerful, wealthy people, has been the downfall of a region that hadn't previously been as much of a threat to the ME or the world.

AND you believe that our elected persons in office will stage an imposed Embargo on oil. The speculative markets for the barrel of oil could send the prices swelling to $400/ barrel. Perhaps they would for monetary compensation. On the other hand, much of the world would spin into a collective chaos and many, many, many poor people around the globe would die from starvation. Disease would ratchet upwards. People would begin "moving", becoming economic refugees into the "western" world more prevalent than ISIS is creating. By boycotting the ME, the world would enter into a depression, an economic collapse, loss of civilization, massive loss of lives (especially the innocent children already in precarious poverty situations), govts would not be able to oversee the needs of its people and many would collapse.

First order of business for the Amerixam People would to get money out of politics!!! Then we could have elected officials doing the business of the people for a change. They're attack against ME Muslim extremism and against gun violence would be two-fold... The first would be to change the direction of energy consumption to energy independence via renewable energies that don't rely on carbon based energy consumption. Not only would a direction change from dirty energy to clean energy benefit the environment and create a massive amount of jobs for people, but it would end our involvement of needing to buy oil on an open market or dealing with OPEC. Secondly, we would have real reform and gun regulations put in place to keep people like this and other nuts from being able to buy assault weapons. Basically, by treating any gun like we do owning a car, we would make the process of owning a weapon much harder for the average American to bother with. With a gun owner having to obtain training, license, insurance, safety devices to hold their weapons, limited amounts of bullets allowed to be bought, an outright ban on assault weapons, and a gun registration system that tracks the gun along with its owner along the system so that anyone's gun that ends up in the hands of someone who shouldn't own one occurs, that last owner is responsible for the subsequent deaths that follow from their weapon.

But just saying "boycott" knowing the system of govt we currently have in place, should go forward, is harmful to so many people from around the world. I am certainly NOT condoning the murder of anyone or any group. I understand people are hurting. I hurt when these mass murders occur too. And they happen all the time now. It seems it's just a matter of time before your space that you felt safe in is completely des tour by gun violence.

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And what is the solution? More bombs? Send in our armed services? glowing Jun 2016 #1
Do what we did to South Africa Elmergantry Jun 2016 #2
Are you or the rest of the world ready to accept a boycott of OPEC? glowing Jun 2016 #9
we now have plenty of oil due to fracking Elmergantry Jun 2016 #12
But that's not how the market works, and you know that! glowing Jun 2016 #13
Why not, you sound ready to accept the gendocide of LGBT you are arguing that nothing Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #15
Because our congress is bought! If it weren't for their sponsors, glowing Jun 2016 #17
How about quit arming the various rebel groups and the regimes that share their ideology? CJCRANE Jun 2016 #3
I did mention that. But I'm sure if we didn't sell them on the front end, they could get them on a glowing Jun 2016 #6
liberals are arming them? lame54 Jun 2016 #14
I know what the solution isn't. Quantess Jun 2016 #4
Who does that? Am I going to say 1.4 billion practicing Muslims are extremist terrorists? No. glowing Jun 2016 #7
My point is that many liberals Quantess Jun 2016 #11
So too many liberals are being 'politically correct'? "Trump pans ‘political correctness’ pampango Jun 2016 #20
Yes. Quantess Jun 2016 #22
Congratulation. Trump and the NRA agree with you. pampango Jun 2016 #23
Like, what you just did. Quantess Jun 2016 #16
So, disavow all Muslims en masse? That's the solution? glowing Jun 2016 #19
Okay, this is a misunderstanding. Quantess Jun 2016 #21
Solution? Simple: BAN THEIR GUNZZZ!!!!!! jack_krass Jun 2016 #24
I'm wondering if the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were planned. JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #5
The problem now is that the ideology is spreading like wildfire. We can no longer just sit back CJCRANE Jun 2016 #8
It's clashes of ideology and culture. JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #10
Sigh.... Fumesucker Jun 2016 #18
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