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72. And in this specific case the shooter apparently passed the background checks. n/t

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Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:13 AM

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Gun nuts are going to lose this one. [View all] onehandle Jun 2016 OP

the real fight should center on reasonable background checks beachbum bob Jun 2016 #1

He passed several reasonable Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #2

No he didn't Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #71

Anyone who is guilty of a misdemeanor domestic violence charge is ineligible. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #77

Not true. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #103

It actually is true. Someone subject to a protective order for harrassment of a partner, or.. X_Digger Jun 2016 #109

It is true, it's called the Lautenburg Amendment and registration wouldn't have stopped Mateen. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #111

He didn't use an AR-15 and it wasn't an automatic. jmg257 Jun 2016 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #85

Yes - as many "assault weapons" are - semi-auto versions of military assault rifles. jmg257 Jun 2016 #86

My bad Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #104

No worries. Targeting "assault weapons" is understandable, which both the AR and MCX (and AK) are. jmg257 Jun 2016 #106

He wasn't even charged with a crime! davidn3600 Jun 2016 #100

DV and the terrorism shoudl have... scscholar Jun 2016 #101

There was no DV charge or conviction SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #113

+1, The shop owner was lamenting on how ridiculous our gun laws are where a cop couldn't uponit7771 Jun 2016 #7

He's a retired NYPD dude DashOneBravo Jun 2016 #80

I think federal laws would be tough - but just about every state control law has exemptions for LE jmg257 Jun 2016 #87

I don't think so. Nate Cohn had a piece in today's NYT cali Jun 2016 #3

You're proposing Hillary should not take a principled stand... yallerdawg Jun 2016 #28

I'm proposing no such thing. cali Jun 2016 #35

over 90% of Americans want better background checks secondwind Jun 2016 #44

Great! Indydem Jun 2016 #48

Investigation HoustonDave Jun 2016 #64

No. Not at all. Indydem Jun 2016 #94

Those who support gun ownership need to propose sensible controls lostnfound Jun 2016 #102

Agreed. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #51

I disagree. You can't go 5 minutes on any news station without hearing about ISIS. Calista241 Jun 2016 #4

Your assessment seems to exlude a vital element of the shooter's personality Orrex Jun 2016 #8

"another Muslim radicalized by ISIS" jack_krass Jun 2016 #107

It's clear he used ISIS as a front for his own unhappiness BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #9

it just was the final element Cosmocat Jun 2016 #47

I think the majority of people reign88 Jun 2016 #88

I think that's right, but this incident was different BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #89

Just like Sandy Hook? pintobean Jun 2016 #5

Following all gun crimes, the first response is to defend the guns at any cost Orrex Jun 2016 #6

Worst argument I have come across loyalsister Jun 2016 #55

Only here are we willing to over look the terrorist watchlist, and FBI report. ileus Jun 2016 #10

There has been plenty of such discussion here BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #11

You know who also liked secret lists? Joe McCarthy. He loved putting names on lists. Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #62

Et voilà! BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #76

Did you know Obama unilaterally suspended remediation for getting off of some lists? Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #96

Ooooh, "some" lists...I know that's a biggie for gun shoppers BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #97

A desire to engage in moral posturing isn't sufficient reason to set aside the Constitution friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #98

You have no answer but an Ad Hominen. Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #99

And he was a wife beater too LynneSin Jun 2016 #14

As with George Zimmerman, HockeyMom Jun 2016 #24

It's illegal for anyone charged with domestic violence deaniac21 Jun 2016 #50

A mere charge isn't sufficient. There has to be a conviction or a restraining order. PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #74

Unforunately, in his case there was no follow through. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #92

That's great but wishful thinking IronLionZion Jun 2016 #12

But he wasn't a foreigner LynneSin Jun 2016 #13

So is President Obama IronLionZion Jun 2016 #15

Those must be the same folks greymattermom Jun 2016 #25

Make America Great Again! IronLionZion Jun 2016 #43

I will keep saying this, the only way we can stop the gun Lobby, and all the other Lobby's is Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #16

They are digging in oberliner Jun 2016 #17

It takes a a Federal Law to ,,, Cryptoad Jun 2016 #18

They're triumphalist shitbags alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #19

Says the person who describes a 7-round pistol as a weapon of mass destruction in his sigline aikoaiko Jun 2016 #20

They made essentially the same prediction (which obviously didn't happen) 3 1/2 years ago: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #91

I'll go with history and predict even more guns will be sold in the next few months. B Calm Jun 2016 #21

Yep. Fear is good for the gun business. seabeckind Jun 2016 #22

On another board I used to frequent Bettie Jun 2016 #26

We're living in a very, very sick society. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #36

this is in fact the case Cosmocat Jun 2016 #45

Safe bet. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #52

If you want to make something more popular, threaten to ban sales of it. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #73

It's like they adapted terrorist attacks to treestar Jun 2016 #23

Don't forget the take credit part. seabeckind Jun 2016 #29

Not as long as Republicans control Congress. No meaningful legislation will pass this year. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #27

Your first sentence wasn't needed. n/t seabeckind Jun 2016 #31

What meaningful legislation would have humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #37

Nothing that would have the slightest chance of being passed. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #41

Universal background checks are a good possibility. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #49

And in this specific case the shooter apparently passed the background checks. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #72

He did. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #75

My understanding is that nothing was reported to authorities RantinRavin Jun 2016 #90

Is this April Fools Day? You think they give a shit about the countless innocents slaughtered MillennialDem Jun 2016 #30

No. If Sandy Hook wasn't a tipping point, then a tipping point does not exist. bullwinkle428 Jun 2016 #32

Gun show. MillennialDem Jun 2016 #34

Precisely right. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #83

Good luck with that humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #33

I noticed a little change in the language though greymattermom Jun 2016 #38

He didn't use an automatic machine gun, it was an ordinary semiautomatic rifle. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #56

Oh damn.......now you've done it. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #57

Good heavens....what was I thinking? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #59

Knowing democrats don't have the guts to really call it for what it is Cosmocat Jun 2016 #46

Unfortunately, such nonsense just makes her look ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #93

I wish. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2016 #39

Don't count on it. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #40

From your lips to God's ears. n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #53

You are being overly optimistic. KPN Jun 2016 #54

I admire your optimism, but I can't help but feel it's another Charlie Brown.... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2016 #58

Nope. The NRA specifically fought to sell guns to terrorists and won. Kablooie Jun 2016 #60

I doubt anything happens at all. Captain Stern Jun 2016 #61

Say it loud... sweetapogee Jun 2016 #63

I think the perceived connection between the two BainsBane Jun 2016 #65

Far be it for me to call for the elimination of a lucrative industry - cab67 Jun 2016 #66

That's an incorrect idea you have there krispos42 Jun 2016 #108

Men with guns and men who can buy men with guns always seem to win, though. nt valerief Jun 2016 #67

We lose votes when we talk about banning guns! End of story. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #68

Sadly, I can't say I agree TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #69

Unfortunately, I highly doubt anything will happen n/t hibbing Jun 2016 #70

They didn't budge when their savior St. Ronnie got shot MuttLikeMe Jun 2016 #79

That shooting ultimately led to the Brady bill. PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #95

Which ultimately didn't do a damn thing MuttLikeMe Jun 2016 #112

I wonder how many here who demand/expect a sweeping ban live in a city or liberal leaning area. Amishman Jun 2016 #81

pardon me if i don't hold my breath waiting 0rganism Jun 2016 #82

They never lose Dem2 Jun 2016 #84

Do I detect the advocacy of violence? Marengo Jun 2016 #105

No. They won't. When the heat of this situation cools off, it will go back to the same as before. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #110