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reign88

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88. I think the majority of people

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:14 PM

Jun 2016

who join ISIS are using it as a front for their own unhappiness.

That doesn't take away from the fact that it gives them an outlet in which to express that rage and find support. ISIS and radicalized Islam is definitely an issue to be dealt with, the last religion left to exit the dark ages.

Here's hoping in the age of enlightenment it evolves, and quickly. When stoning to death, beheading, and locking women in prison for being raped are accepted as part of an ideology in today's world, something is broken.

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Gun nuts are going to lose this one. [View all] onehandle Jun 2016 OP

the real fight should center on reasonable background checks beachbum bob Jun 2016 #1

He passed several reasonable Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #2

No he didn't Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #71

Anyone who is guilty of a misdemeanor domestic violence charge is ineligible. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #77

Not true. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #103

It actually is true. Someone subject to a protective order for harrassment of a partner, or.. X_Digger Jun 2016 #109

It is true, it's called the Lautenburg Amendment and registration wouldn't have stopped Mateen. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #111

He didn't use an AR-15 and it wasn't an automatic. jmg257 Jun 2016 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #85

Yes - as many "assault weapons" are - semi-auto versions of military assault rifles. jmg257 Jun 2016 #86

My bad Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #104

No worries. Targeting "assault weapons" is understandable, which both the AR and MCX (and AK) are. jmg257 Jun 2016 #106

He wasn't even charged with a crime! davidn3600 Jun 2016 #100

DV and the terrorism shoudl have... scscholar Jun 2016 #101

There was no DV charge or conviction SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #113

+1, The shop owner was lamenting on how ridiculous our gun laws are where a cop couldn't uponit7771 Jun 2016 #7

He's a retired NYPD dude DashOneBravo Jun 2016 #80

I think federal laws would be tough - but just about every state control law has exemptions for LE jmg257 Jun 2016 #87

I don't think so. Nate Cohn had a piece in today's NYT cali Jun 2016 #3

You're proposing Hillary should not take a principled stand... yallerdawg Jun 2016 #28

I'm proposing no such thing. cali Jun 2016 #35

over 90% of Americans want better background checks secondwind Jun 2016 #44

Great! Indydem Jun 2016 #48

Investigation HoustonDave Jun 2016 #64

No. Not at all. Indydem Jun 2016 #94

Those who support gun ownership need to propose sensible controls lostnfound Jun 2016 #102

Agreed. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #51

I disagree. You can't go 5 minutes on any news station without hearing about ISIS. Calista241 Jun 2016 #4

Your assessment seems to exlude a vital element of the shooter's personality Orrex Jun 2016 #8

"another Muslim radicalized by ISIS" jack_krass Jun 2016 #107

It's clear he used ISIS as a front for his own unhappiness BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #9

it just was the final element Cosmocat Jun 2016 #47

I think the majority of people reign88 Jun 2016 #88

I think that's right, but this incident was different BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #89

Just like Sandy Hook? pintobean Jun 2016 #5

Following all gun crimes, the first response is to defend the guns at any cost Orrex Jun 2016 #6

Worst argument I have come across loyalsister Jun 2016 #55

Only here are we willing to over look the terrorist watchlist, and FBI report. ileus Jun 2016 #10

There has been plenty of such discussion here BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #11

You know who also liked secret lists? Joe McCarthy. He loved putting names on lists. Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #62

Et voilà! BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #76

Did you know Obama unilaterally suspended remediation for getting off of some lists? Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #96

Ooooh, "some" lists...I know that's a biggie for gun shoppers BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #97

A desire to engage in moral posturing isn't sufficient reason to set aside the Constitution friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #98

You have no answer but an Ad Hominen. Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #99

And he was a wife beater too LynneSin Jun 2016 #14

As with George Zimmerman, HockeyMom Jun 2016 #24

It's illegal for anyone charged with domestic violence deaniac21 Jun 2016 #50

A mere charge isn't sufficient. There has to be a conviction or a restraining order. PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #74

Unforunately, in his case there was no follow through. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #92

That's great but wishful thinking IronLionZion Jun 2016 #12

But he wasn't a foreigner LynneSin Jun 2016 #13

So is President Obama IronLionZion Jun 2016 #15

Those must be the same folks greymattermom Jun 2016 #25

Make America Great Again! IronLionZion Jun 2016 #43

I will keep saying this, the only way we can stop the gun Lobby, and all the other Lobby's is Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #16

They are digging in oberliner Jun 2016 #17

It takes a a Federal Law to ,,, Cryptoad Jun 2016 #18

They're triumphalist shitbags alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #19

Says the person who describes a 7-round pistol as a weapon of mass destruction in his sigline aikoaiko Jun 2016 #20

They made essentially the same prediction (which obviously didn't happen) 3 1/2 years ago: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #91

I'll go with history and predict even more guns will be sold in the next few months. B Calm Jun 2016 #21

Yep. Fear is good for the gun business. seabeckind Jun 2016 #22

On another board I used to frequent Bettie Jun 2016 #26

We're living in a very, very sick society. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #36

this is in fact the case Cosmocat Jun 2016 #45

Safe bet. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #52

If you want to make something more popular, threaten to ban sales of it. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #73

It's like they adapted terrorist attacks to treestar Jun 2016 #23

Don't forget the take credit part. seabeckind Jun 2016 #29

Not as long as Republicans control Congress. No meaningful legislation will pass this year. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #27

Your first sentence wasn't needed. n/t seabeckind Jun 2016 #31

What meaningful legislation would have humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #37

Nothing that would have the slightest chance of being passed. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #41

Universal background checks are a good possibility. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #49

And in this specific case the shooter apparently passed the background checks. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #72

He did. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #75

My understanding is that nothing was reported to authorities RantinRavin Jun 2016 #90

Is this April Fools Day? You think they give a shit about the countless innocents slaughtered MillennialDem Jun 2016 #30

No. If Sandy Hook wasn't a tipping point, then a tipping point does not exist. bullwinkle428 Jun 2016 #32

Gun show. MillennialDem Jun 2016 #34

Precisely right. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #83

Good luck with that humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #33

I noticed a little change in the language though greymattermom Jun 2016 #38

He didn't use an automatic machine gun, it was an ordinary semiautomatic rifle. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #56

Oh damn.......now you've done it. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #57

Good heavens....what was I thinking? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #59

Knowing democrats don't have the guts to really call it for what it is Cosmocat Jun 2016 #46

Unfortunately, such nonsense just makes her look ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #93

I wish. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2016 #39

Don't count on it. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #40

From your lips to God's ears. n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #53

You are being overly optimistic. KPN Jun 2016 #54

I admire your optimism, but I can't help but feel it's another Charlie Brown.... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2016 #58

Nope. The NRA specifically fought to sell guns to terrorists and won. Kablooie Jun 2016 #60

I doubt anything happens at all. Captain Stern Jun 2016 #61

Say it loud... sweetapogee Jun 2016 #63

I think the perceived connection between the two BainsBane Jun 2016 #65

Far be it for me to call for the elimination of a lucrative industry - cab67 Jun 2016 #66

That's an incorrect idea you have there krispos42 Jun 2016 #108

Men with guns and men who can buy men with guns always seem to win, though. nt valerief Jun 2016 #67

We lose votes when we talk about banning guns! End of story. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #68

Sadly, I can't say I agree TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #69

Unfortunately, I highly doubt anything will happen n/t hibbing Jun 2016 #70

They didn't budge when their savior St. Ronnie got shot MuttLikeMe Jun 2016 #79

That shooting ultimately led to the Brady bill. PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #95

Which ultimately didn't do a damn thing MuttLikeMe Jun 2016 #112

I wonder how many here who demand/expect a sweeping ban live in a city or liberal leaning area. Amishman Jun 2016 #81

pardon me if i don't hold my breath waiting 0rganism Jun 2016 #82

They never lose Dem2 Jun 2016 #84

Do I detect the advocacy of violence? Marengo Jun 2016 #105

No. They won't. When the heat of this situation cools off, it will go back to the same as before. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #110