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guillaumeb

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16. Matthew Shepard lived in a country that has no such laws.

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:15 PM

Jun 2016

At least on paper. But he is just as dead as the victims in Orlando.

Is the US any less homophobic and misogynistic because the hatred is not codified in law?

What makes people Islamophobes is reducing Islam to the actions of a tiny few. There are hateful killers in every population.

Did you condemn Christianity and the US because of Dylan Roof?

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For those who condemn "all Abrahamic religions" as "equally bad", [View all] Nye Bevan Jun 2016 OP

"Tis a gift to be simple" is a fine song, guillaumeb Jun 2016 #1

Riiiiiight. Because Persia has NO record of doing such things. Coventina Jun 2016 #2

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #6

You were the one insinuating that England and Israel were somehow unique in that regard. Coventina Jun 2016 #7

Incorrect on your part. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #10

You are adorable! I answered your question, but you didn't like the answer. Coventina Jun 2016 #14

You don't think some leftynyc Jun 2016 #12

Matthew Shepard lived in a country that has no such laws. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #16

Are you kidding me? leftynyc Jun 2016 #18

That you ignore most of what I said is interresting. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #21

You want me to pick apart leftynyc Jun 2016 #46

+100000 AntiBank Jun 2016 #90

Nice avoidance. Almost classical in its totality. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #96

Yes, of course leftynyc Jun 2016 #104

So you also attack Orthodox Jews who attack women in Jerusalem? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #105

ABSOLUTELY leftynyc Jun 2016 #108

Then you are consistent. I have no reason to doubt you. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #111

On guns we agree leftynyc Jun 2016 #124

Naive at best... TipTok Jun 2016 #123

do you honestly not believe Tsiyu Jun 2016 #32

So what? leftynyc Jun 2016 #44

So what. Tsiyu Jun 2016 #62

What do ANY of those heinous crimes leftynyc Jun 2016 #79

Laws change Tsiyu Jun 2016 #113

You can stop shoving words in leftynyc Jun 2016 #125

Maybe in your state Tsiyu Jun 2016 #127

No - we will never be as bad leftynyc Jun 2016 #128

No, we kill people for selling loosie cigarettes Tsiyu Jun 2016 #130

Yawn leftynyc Jun 2016 #131

Pat pat Tsiyu Jun 2016 #134

Yes, the U.S. IS less homophobic and misogynistic because the hatred is not codified in law FrodosPet Jun 2016 #61

And it is IN SPITE of Christianity, not because of it. dbackjon Jun 2016 #68

This^^^^ and this and again this... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #77

There are African countries where American Christians have been actively Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #45

Yes, I know leftynyc Jun 2016 #48

Why do you accuse me of "deflecting" from treatment of women under Islam Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #58

You obviously don't know me AT ALL leftynyc Jun 2016 #78

I think that every post about Islam should just simply end with: But Christians! Coventina Jun 2016 #84

This thread was about "Abrahamic religions" followed by a list of cities. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #106

It was about Abrahamic religions in the context of homosexuality, and whether the three treat Coventina Jun 2016 #107

This is what I was pointing out. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #110

I absolutely do not give Christians a pass, in Uganda or anywhere else. Coventina Jun 2016 #112

I don't know YOU, anymore than you know me, but Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #100

Actually, it's about leftynyc Jun 2016 #102

Actually, many ethnic Iranians chose to refer to themselves as "Persians".... moriah Jun 2016 #57

Pointing out obvious shit is now islamophobic? Quantess Jun 2016 #60

You have shown your true colors. Quantess Jun 2016 #115

So someone who tells the truth lancer78 Jun 2016 #120

Iran has killing gays leftynyc Jun 2016 #3

Yep King_David Jun 2016 #4

And I will be here to point out the latent and overt Islamophobia guillaumeb Jun 2016 #8

Yawn leftynyc Jun 2016 #15

Are you including the US in that group? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #17

Do we have laws leftynyc Jun 2016 #19

People in the US are killed all the time for gender difference. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #23

Do you think some countries are better for LGBT people than others? oberliner Jun 2016 #25

Some countries are generally more hospitable. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #31

Spain, Germany, and Canada seem to top most lists in terms of being LGBTQ friendly oberliner Jun 2016 #33

But Spain and Germany historically have other prejudices. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #35

Understood oberliner Jun 2016 #39

Good luck keeping up with the goalposts! Coventina Jun 2016 #38

No goalpost moving here oberliner Jun 2016 #40

Do you recall what the Germans were getting up to within living memory? Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #54

Certainly fundamentalist Christianity could be one of the factors oberliner Jun 2016 #55

You Cannot Differentiate Between State Sanctioned Killing. . . ProfessorGAC Jun 2016 #28

You see the difference only because you're an anti-Islamic bigot. Coventina Jun 2016 #30

Ayup, that's how it goes. n/t trotsky Jun 2016 #99

A good lesson whatthehey Jun 2016 #5

I'd imagine safety is predicated more on government than on faith LanternWaste Jun 2016 #9

well, what is govenment predicated on? gov't, faith, and culture are intertwined. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2016 #119

Because we've all been to Kabul and Teheran. closeupready Jun 2016 #11

Who are "those" ? yellowcanine Jun 2016 #13

In what year? trotsky Jun 2016 #20

Do all those cities allow gay marriage? Gay adoption? Spousal rights in case of sickness/injury? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #22

That's a fairly extreme evasion of the subject matter. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #26

Shhh...don't harsh their buzz. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #34

Like how the OP avoided noticing that some Middle Eastern societies, male friends hold hands? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #93

The OP was clearly trying to highlight Jewish and Christian cities as "good." They're not. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #91

Said only by those who are allowed to hold hands. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #63

So the gay rights movement just STOPS until everyone everywhere can hold hands? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #92

The concept of "official state religion" varies widely among those six. KamaAina Jun 2016 #24

And that's not unrelated to the subject matter either. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #27

A scam that give the C of E seats in the legislature muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #37

Orthodox Moscow conspicuously absent from list jberryhill Jun 2016 #29

You'd need to check with the local customs muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #36

I think they are POTENTIALLY equally bad gollygee Jun 2016 #41

I think it may have more to do with Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #42

i would say MariaThinks Jun 2016 #43

You're making a false comparison Buzz cook Jun 2016 #47

Tel Aviv King_David Jun 2016 #59

And yet there is this and more. Buzz cook Jun 2016 #64

Oh , now you're talking about Jerusalem. King_David Jun 2016 #65

Google gave me that as the first hit. Buzz cook Jun 2016 #70

Yes and so ? From your link: King_David Jun 2016 #95

You indicated a belief that Tel Aviv Buzz cook Jun 2016 #97

Nope - There's nowhere in the world that's never had an assault on Gays King_David Jun 2016 #101

Amsterdam has become one of the most dangerous places for Gays... Why do you think that is ? King_David Jun 2016 #69

I traveled through the Netherlands a few years back. Coventina Jun 2016 #72

Amsterdam used to be a gay paradise.... King_David Jun 2016 #74

The comments for that article say it all....... Coventina Jun 2016 #75

Read this article: King_David Jun 2016 #82

Horrific: "Gallop found literally no British Muslims who would say that homosexuality was morally Coventina Jun 2016 #87

Exactly King_David Jun 2016 #94

pretty much. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2016 #121

The article doesn't give enough information Buzz cook Jun 2016 #73

Can We Finally Talk About Muslim Homophobia in Britain? King_David Jun 2016 #80

Without doing any research, I would guess Tel Aviv has the most liberal gay rights laws on that list tritsofme Jun 2016 #49

The UK and Ireland both have more protections for LGBT people than Israel. DemocraticWing Jun 2016 #53

So, CoE, invented to allow divorce, wins? REP Jun 2016 #50

Vatican City is probably the answer. Lots of homophobes of all kinds in all the cities. DemocraticWing Jun 2016 #51

Gonna say Dublin or the Vatican. linuxman Jun 2016 #52

you got us there treestar Jun 2016 #56

Please be honest dbackjon Jun 2016 #66

the OP statement says more about a person making it 6chars Jun 2016 #67

Cross-posted from another thread Tsiyu Jun 2016 #71

That was Pope Benedict, who expressed opposition to that law, which was struck down in 2014, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #83

And it was the modern day church, not the Crusades as you so smugly Tsiyu Jun 2016 #114

Try the Gospels instead of the "Bobble". Read what Jesus actually said and did (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #116

Take your condescension to church with you Tsiyu Jun 2016 #117

They are equally susceptible to demagoguery and abuse. randome Jun 2016 #76

All of these countries have religious zealots! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #81

I don't think there is much of a link between rape and religion, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #86

Yeah, please show me links where RAPE VICTIMS get arrested for "sex out of marriage" in Jewish or Coventina Jun 2016 #89

no here we just pretend the rape never happened Tsiyu Jun 2016 #118

Oh GOOD, let's fight some MORE! elleng Jun 2016 #85

Would DU be better if people only posted threads that everyone agrees with 100%? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #88

It might be better if people on DU would actually free themselves from guillaumeb Jun 2016 #103

Judging by the "a pox on ALL religion" posts, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #109

Queer-friendly mosque afraid to publish its address -- in Toronto Dems to Win Jun 2016 #98

I am from secular, vibrant, and uber-European Dublin anamnua Jun 2016 #122

Christianity is more insidious and subtle in its bigotry. backscatter712 Jun 2016 #126

How about: they're all bad enough? brooklynite Jun 2016 #129

I condemn all gay-hating organizations equally. Iggo Jun 2016 #132

Religions take turns at who is being the worst at the time MillennialDem Jun 2016 #133