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98. Queer-friendly mosque afraid to publish its address -- in Toronto

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:29 PM

Jun 2016

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jun/03/unity-mosque-queer-muslim-islam-samra-habib

Prayer spaces that welcome queer Muslims are often not advertised to protect people’s safety. If you don’t have a queer Muslim friend who attends an inclusive mosque or know of a queer imam who organizes prayers, it’s impossible to know that they exist. I had heard about Unity mosque from activist friends who ran in the same social circles as one of the co-founders, El-Farouk Khaki. The human rights lawyer founded the mosque in 2014 with his partner Troy Jackson and academic Laurie Silvers.

I can tell you exactly where the gay-friendly churches in San Francisco are located.

Maybe queer Muslims understand the threats from their co-religionists better than DU commenters.

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For those who condemn "all Abrahamic religions" as "equally bad", [View all] Nye Bevan Jun 2016 OP

"Tis a gift to be simple" is a fine song, guillaumeb Jun 2016 #1

Riiiiiight. Because Persia has NO record of doing such things. Coventina Jun 2016 #2

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #6

You were the one insinuating that England and Israel were somehow unique in that regard. Coventina Jun 2016 #7

Incorrect on your part. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #10

You are adorable! I answered your question, but you didn't like the answer. Coventina Jun 2016 #14

You don't think some leftynyc Jun 2016 #12

Matthew Shepard lived in a country that has no such laws. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #16

Are you kidding me? leftynyc Jun 2016 #18

That you ignore most of what I said is interresting. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #21

You want me to pick apart leftynyc Jun 2016 #46

+100000 AntiBank Jun 2016 #90

Nice avoidance. Almost classical in its totality. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #96

Yes, of course leftynyc Jun 2016 #104

So you also attack Orthodox Jews who attack women in Jerusalem? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #105

ABSOLUTELY leftynyc Jun 2016 #108

Then you are consistent. I have no reason to doubt you. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #111

On guns we agree leftynyc Jun 2016 #124

Naive at best... TipTok Jun 2016 #123

do you honestly not believe Tsiyu Jun 2016 #32

So what? leftynyc Jun 2016 #44

So what. Tsiyu Jun 2016 #62

What do ANY of those heinous crimes leftynyc Jun 2016 #79

Laws change Tsiyu Jun 2016 #113

You can stop shoving words in leftynyc Jun 2016 #125

Maybe in your state Tsiyu Jun 2016 #127

No - we will never be as bad leftynyc Jun 2016 #128

No, we kill people for selling loosie cigarettes Tsiyu Jun 2016 #130

Yawn leftynyc Jun 2016 #131

Pat pat Tsiyu Jun 2016 #134

Yes, the U.S. IS less homophobic and misogynistic because the hatred is not codified in law FrodosPet Jun 2016 #61

And it is IN SPITE of Christianity, not because of it. dbackjon Jun 2016 #68

This^^^^ and this and again this... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #77

There are African countries where American Christians have been actively Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #45

Yes, I know leftynyc Jun 2016 #48

Why do you accuse me of "deflecting" from treatment of women under Islam Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #58

You obviously don't know me AT ALL leftynyc Jun 2016 #78

I think that every post about Islam should just simply end with: But Christians! Coventina Jun 2016 #84

This thread was about "Abrahamic religions" followed by a list of cities. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #106

It was about Abrahamic religions in the context of homosexuality, and whether the three treat Coventina Jun 2016 #107

This is what I was pointing out. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #110

I absolutely do not give Christians a pass, in Uganda or anywhere else. Coventina Jun 2016 #112

I don't know YOU, anymore than you know me, but Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #100

Actually, it's about leftynyc Jun 2016 #102

Actually, many ethnic Iranians chose to refer to themselves as "Persians".... moriah Jun 2016 #57

Pointing out obvious shit is now islamophobic? Quantess Jun 2016 #60

You have shown your true colors. Quantess Jun 2016 #115

So someone who tells the truth lancer78 Jun 2016 #120

Iran has killing gays leftynyc Jun 2016 #3

Yep King_David Jun 2016 #4

And I will be here to point out the latent and overt Islamophobia guillaumeb Jun 2016 #8

Yawn leftynyc Jun 2016 #15

Are you including the US in that group? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #17

Do we have laws leftynyc Jun 2016 #19

People in the US are killed all the time for gender difference. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #23

Do you think some countries are better for LGBT people than others? oberliner Jun 2016 #25

Some countries are generally more hospitable. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #31

Spain, Germany, and Canada seem to top most lists in terms of being LGBTQ friendly oberliner Jun 2016 #33

But Spain and Germany historically have other prejudices. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #35

Understood oberliner Jun 2016 #39

Good luck keeping up with the goalposts! Coventina Jun 2016 #38

No goalpost moving here oberliner Jun 2016 #40

Do you recall what the Germans were getting up to within living memory? Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #54

Certainly fundamentalist Christianity could be one of the factors oberliner Jun 2016 #55

You Cannot Differentiate Between State Sanctioned Killing. . . ProfessorGAC Jun 2016 #28

You see the difference only because you're an anti-Islamic bigot. Coventina Jun 2016 #30

Ayup, that's how it goes. n/t trotsky Jun 2016 #99

A good lesson whatthehey Jun 2016 #5

I'd imagine safety is predicated more on government than on faith LanternWaste Jun 2016 #9

well, what is govenment predicated on? gov't, faith, and culture are intertwined. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2016 #119

Because we've all been to Kabul and Teheran. closeupready Jun 2016 #11

Who are "those" ? yellowcanine Jun 2016 #13

In what year? trotsky Jun 2016 #20

Do all those cities allow gay marriage? Gay adoption? Spousal rights in case of sickness/injury? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #22

That's a fairly extreme evasion of the subject matter. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #26

Shhh...don't harsh their buzz. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #34

Like how the OP avoided noticing that some Middle Eastern societies, male friends hold hands? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #93

The OP was clearly trying to highlight Jewish and Christian cities as "good." They're not. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #91

Said only by those who are allowed to hold hands. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #63

So the gay rights movement just STOPS until everyone everywhere can hold hands? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #92

The concept of "official state religion" varies widely among those six. KamaAina Jun 2016 #24

And that's not unrelated to the subject matter either. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #27

A scam that give the C of E seats in the legislature muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #37

Orthodox Moscow conspicuously absent from list jberryhill Jun 2016 #29

You'd need to check with the local customs muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #36

I think they are POTENTIALLY equally bad gollygee Jun 2016 #41

I think it may have more to do with Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #42

i would say MariaThinks Jun 2016 #43

You're making a false comparison Buzz cook Jun 2016 #47

Tel Aviv King_David Jun 2016 #59

And yet there is this and more. Buzz cook Jun 2016 #64

Oh , now you're talking about Jerusalem. King_David Jun 2016 #65

Google gave me that as the first hit. Buzz cook Jun 2016 #70

Yes and so ? From your link: King_David Jun 2016 #95

You indicated a belief that Tel Aviv Buzz cook Jun 2016 #97

Nope - There's nowhere in the world that's never had an assault on Gays King_David Jun 2016 #101

Amsterdam has become one of the most dangerous places for Gays... Why do you think that is ? King_David Jun 2016 #69

I traveled through the Netherlands a few years back. Coventina Jun 2016 #72

Amsterdam used to be a gay paradise.... King_David Jun 2016 #74

The comments for that article say it all....... Coventina Jun 2016 #75

Read this article: King_David Jun 2016 #82

Horrific: "Gallop found literally no British Muslims who would say that homosexuality was morally Coventina Jun 2016 #87

Exactly King_David Jun 2016 #94

pretty much. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2016 #121

The article doesn't give enough information Buzz cook Jun 2016 #73

Can We Finally Talk About Muslim Homophobia in Britain? King_David Jun 2016 #80

Without doing any research, I would guess Tel Aviv has the most liberal gay rights laws on that list tritsofme Jun 2016 #49

The UK and Ireland both have more protections for LGBT people than Israel. DemocraticWing Jun 2016 #53

So, CoE, invented to allow divorce, wins? REP Jun 2016 #50

Vatican City is probably the answer. Lots of homophobes of all kinds in all the cities. DemocraticWing Jun 2016 #51

Gonna say Dublin or the Vatican. linuxman Jun 2016 #52

you got us there treestar Jun 2016 #56

Please be honest dbackjon Jun 2016 #66

the OP statement says more about a person making it 6chars Jun 2016 #67

Cross-posted from another thread Tsiyu Jun 2016 #71

That was Pope Benedict, who expressed opposition to that law, which was struck down in 2014, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #83

And it was the modern day church, not the Crusades as you so smugly Tsiyu Jun 2016 #114

Try the Gospels instead of the "Bobble". Read what Jesus actually said and did (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #116

Take your condescension to church with you Tsiyu Jun 2016 #117

They are equally susceptible to demagoguery and abuse. randome Jun 2016 #76

All of these countries have religious zealots! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #81

I don't think there is much of a link between rape and religion, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #86

Yeah, please show me links where RAPE VICTIMS get arrested for "sex out of marriage" in Jewish or Coventina Jun 2016 #89

no here we just pretend the rape never happened Tsiyu Jun 2016 #118

Oh GOOD, let's fight some MORE! elleng Jun 2016 #85

Would DU be better if people only posted threads that everyone agrees with 100%? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #88

It might be better if people on DU would actually free themselves from guillaumeb Jun 2016 #103

Judging by the "a pox on ALL religion" posts, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #109

Queer-friendly mosque afraid to publish its address -- in Toronto Dems to Win Jun 2016 #98

I am from secular, vibrant, and uber-European Dublin anamnua Jun 2016 #122

Christianity is more insidious and subtle in its bigotry. backscatter712 Jun 2016 #126

How about: they're all bad enough? brooklynite Jun 2016 #129

I condemn all gay-hating organizations equally. Iggo Jun 2016 #132

Religions take turns at who is being the worst at the time MillennialDem Jun 2016 #133