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PufPuf23

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14. Taurus - Spirit / Stairway to Heaven
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jun 2016

I was a huge fan of Spirit in high school and saw them 3X, twice at Fillmore West and once at Winterland, in San Francisco 1968 to 1970. The concert at Winterland was Halloween 1970 and Spirit was 2nd billed to Ike and Tina Turner Review. I have not seen live rock and roll since late Summer 1994 when I saw Spirit in a bar in Eureka, CA; the only two original members were Randy California and Ed Cassidy, the drummer and California's step father.

Spirit and Led Zeppelin toured together on LZ's first tour of the USA in 1969 several years prior to recording Stairway to Heaven. Spirit had already released Taurus on their first album. I can see how Taurus may have influenced Stairway to Heaven but think the argument for plagiarism is weak and way too late and there are only so many combinations of notes in blues-derived rock and roll.

Prior to forming Spirit, Randy California had played rhythm guitar in Jimi Hendrix's band prior to the Jimi Hendrix Experience. Hendrix tagged Randy Wolfe with Randy "California" as there were two Randy's in the band. Cassidy was an experienced jazz drummer who had also been in a prior band with Taj Mahal and Randy California's biological father owned a music venue in Los Angeles so he had experienced music all his life.

Taurus was on Spirit's first album entitled "Spirit" that was released in January 1968.

Stariway to Heaven was on Led Zeppelin's fourth album intitled "Led Zeppelin IV" released November 1971.

The first half of the following clip is Spirit's Taurus; the second half is Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven.


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You're married to LynneSin? KamaAina Jun 2016 #1
This definitely needs to be cross-posted to the Lounge!!! Coventina Jun 2016 #22
They're the toll-booth couple!! madinmaryland Jun 2016 #43
"go back go back" pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #2
IKR Lochloosa Jun 2016 #5
i see what you there nt arely staircase Jun 2016 #34
Why are they bringing this up 45 years after the fact? frazzled Jun 2016 #3
copyrights are good for up to 90 years I think dlwickham Jun 2016 #4
I realize that frazzled Jun 2016 #6
You mean his estate - the guy died almost 20 years ago. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #7
maybe that's why it's taken so long dlwickham Jun 2016 #21
what I heard was the master was released in 2014 rufus dog Jun 2016 #8
Randy Wolfe had 25 years to sue and didn't TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #10
Why was she released? ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #9
The suit is a joke and if Zep loses it would be ridiculous. Bonx Jun 2016 #20
you can bet it's not a joke for plant or page... spanone Jun 2016 #27
The merits of the case are a joke. Bonx Jun 2016 #30
it merited enough to go to court. call it what you will, everyone's sweating. spanone Jun 2016 #31
Making it to court just shows how fucked up the legal system is. Bonx Jun 2016 #32
you think that song is Stairway to Heaven? arely staircase Jun 2016 #36
No I don't. Bonx Jun 2016 #38
I hear the clear similariity in the first four chords. arely staircase Jun 2016 #45
I don't know yet. My wife is on her way home from LA now. upaloopa Jun 2016 #29
Page and Plant "borrowed" a lot of their work (and turned it into something unique usually) arely staircase Jun 2016 #11
The opening chords? That song has like 6 major 'passages' I can think of offhand brett_jv Jun 2016 #12
Willie Dixon's case was legit imho arely staircase Jun 2016 #15
Check my edit ;) brett_jv Jun 2016 #18
yeah, that is about right. arely staircase Jun 2016 #24
It's only rock 'n' roll! yallerdawg Jun 2016 #13
the opening line in that bach piece is right out of a nine inch nails song arely staircase Jun 2016 #19
Taurus - Spirit / Stairway to Heaven PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #14
nice post. nt arely staircase Jun 2016 #16
Thank you. Here is a nice recent article from Rollingstone about the trial and Spirit. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #28
Not to nitpick, but it's 'known' as Led Zeppelin IV, but that's not the title ... brett_jv Jun 2016 #17
The first four albums by Led Zeppelin are the four Led Zeppelin albums I purchased PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #23
yeah. I knew a guy who insisted on calling it Zoso. arely staircase Jun 2016 #25
Has anyone listened to Taurus? Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2016 #26
The Spirit album in you post is a "best of" album plus several unreleased PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #33
I only posted the song in question, not an album. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2016 #35
Song is the same. Nothing relevant to case and no intent to diminish your post. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #39
Oh, OK. Thanks for clarifying. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2016 #40
Although I like much of their stuff....the allegations of um...borrowing others music... clarice Jun 2016 #37
I thought maybe you were coining a phrase, but just a typo I guess. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2016 #41
I stand corrected O Grammarelectrotron..seriously though..I was unaware of the distinction. nt clarice Jun 2016 #42
why don't they just settle it ? haven't they settled a bunch of other cases ? JI7 Jun 2016 #44
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